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The post Xitter web has spawned so many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
Siskind goes viral with a Schrƶdingerās joke on twitter:
currently top post on other sneerclub
ah yes, compassion towards everyone, a thing that people obsessed with IQ definitely evince
Yeah, when I think of rationalists I definitely think of their belief in ācompassion for everyoneā.
In fact their emphasis is on care and compassion for the as-yet-unborn, not on people who are actually alive right now. Which does give them something in common with a lot of followers of a certain Jewish guy from Galileeā¦
āconsortā and ācompassionā are doing some serious lifting there
ā¦so weāre admitting its an apocalyptic cult? awesome. so glad these guys dominate the AI industry
also, ācompassion for everyoneā??? several rationalists promote mass deportation because of āethnic purityā you yourself support Richard Lyn!!!
also also, āconsort with prostitutesā?, Scott do you know how many sexual assault/abuse allegations your fellow rationalists have?
It has been a while since I read a Gospel, but I donāt think Jesus hired the sinful woman for a threesome and some light flogging (or asked the centurion to lend him his boy overnight).
IMHO, being an escort is a much more honest profession than being a professional blogger on a Nazi site.
Did Christ actually talk that much about the literal end of the world? Isnāt that more something that John of Patmos came up with after bingeing on the local mushrooms?
Nobody knows exactly what he talked about, but the view that he passes the bar for historicity but seems to have been more of a the-end-is-nigh witch doctor type character as the new baseline has gained a lot of ground, especially with biblical scholars like Bart Ehrman breaking into popular science writing.
Also Johnās apocalypse has the whole coded anti-roman-empire screed going for it beyond the psychedelia, so itās arguable Jesus was the more direct doom prophet, but for a more distinctly jewish flavored apocalypse.
tbc Iām not a mysticist at all, and I generally understand and agree with the historicity arguments. I havenāt read Ehrman, though. Do you know if his work is where does the āend-is-nigh witch doctorā idea comes from? Afaik neither Paul nor Josephus nor Tacitus describe him as such, and as I understand those are the main sources we have. Like, I can understand that this is a hypothesis someone floated around but Iām curious why this would be the consensus among historians.
Apparently he has a book called Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet of the New Millenium so thatās likely to have you covered. I read āHow Jesus Became Godā from him at some point which might have touched on this, but it was mostly about the evolution of the messiah concept itself, like how the āson of manā was supposed to be itās own specific thing and not just a euphemism for messiah, or how the term in jewish apocalyptic literature is pretty much completely separate from where the christian interpretation ended up.
Overall a very readable book, I remember liking it but itās really been a while.
part of the infuriation with Aellaās bullshit is that not all the women, or even many of the women, who feel compelled to participate are active sex workers. but I guess wading too far into details about consent and power structures might preclude Scottās 90-second guest appearance at Aellaās next gangbang, soooooo
I have no first-hand experience or evidence to prove this, but I feel like any sex workersā union worth its salt would drum Aella out as a class traitor.
Doubt it, considering the difference between high end escort sex workers and survival/low end sex workers.
Oh God both Yud himself and now that SE Gyges character have responded.
I originally believed Yeshua was a misspelling of Yoshua-as in Yoshua Bengio, but no he actually wrote out a fake conversation with Jesus where he compares himself to Jesus. holy shit
We constantly build a case for how they are building a weird christian proto cult and he just tweets it out.
It feels like thereās something particularly sacrilegious about someone who actively proud of their Jewish heritage having a Messiah complex. I mean I guess there was the one guy but I seem to remember it being a really big deal at the time.
How much of a complete fucking idiot do you have to be to publicly acknowledge the Zizians in the middle of an ongoing PR disaster about your clan being on the women like to be raped they just donāt have the balls to admit it ideological bandwagon. Hey everyone, check out how my writings caused the Zizians1! Specifically by making them think we are ridiculous hypocrites for making huge claims about being scientifically unblackmailable and then paying a bunch of hush money to sexual assault victims who threatened to make a fuss. Yeah, the part where we where trying to cover up systematic abuse didnāt help either.
I think deep down these people think PR is unethical , because the world is always better if everyone tells the Truth, so having to massage the message is Bad. Same think for voter preferences - having to appeal to the average voter instead of only listening to the people who have read and internalized the Sequences feels deeply wrong and I really donāt think these people have enough imagination or empathy to change that.
Not only that, they view commonsense moral and ethical reasoning as a PR constraint, i.e. look at the discourse around the hiring of Caroline Ellison to an EA org that handles significant sums of money. Lot of commenters were merely framing it as a PR problem and not a basic commonsense ethics problem.
I mean the alternative would require (or at least allow) asking difficult questions about influential figures in Rationalism as a movement. By describing concerns about ethics or character solely in terms of perception you can avoid actually engaging with how shitty these people are by appealing to the general sense of in-group superiority.
It is also funny that one of the people who cant spell his name is not some nobody, but Kurzweil in āthe singularity is nearā.
which fanfic prompt is worse:
a) Yud has to do the Dragonball Z fusion dance with Jesus in order to defeat the basilisk
b) Yud isekaiās as Jesus
They actually both converge to a retelling of SCP-8008.
I canāt answer that. I keep laughing maniacally when I try to think about either one.
good lord, the egos on all of them