

Thanks for putting this together in one spot!
[redacted] enthusiast, robot combat enjoyer, distressingly Appalachian, father of ninjas


Thanks for putting this together in one spot!


Stuff like this highlights that the "info"dump was an act of contempt toward professional mathematics. If OAI actually gave a damn about people, they could have coordinated with actual researchers in the relevant fields to clean up the documents while putting a human face on them. Put everything behind NDAs, fund some grants and fellowships, and if it leaks? So what, it would have been actual good press and built hype. Plus, it would have weeded out the the obvious garbage and theyād have brought a lot of young researchers inside the tent.
But nooooooo, they chose violence, because they are assholes. Theyāll never forgive the academics for doing the work and actually being good at math and physics.
I know Iām preaching to the choir, but damn Iām stirred up.


Thanks! :)


First up: thanks for your hard work here in the sneer mines during these ridiculous times!
I saw this being ignored on HN and I thought that you might appreciate it:
Navier-Stokes Lost in Translation ā Why Lean Verification of AI Autoformalisation Does not Guarantee Correct Natural Language Proofs
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2610.08144
The authors point out that automatic translation of natural language mathematics into Lean is very hard, actually. They also highlight some examples of such translation errors in the Navier-Stokes āpaperā published by OpenAI. They tread lightly and donāt take a position on the correctness of the proof, but they do bring a large stack of receipts.
I also thought the reference to the Solvability Complexity Index (which is new to me) was interesting, and thereās an appendix with an explainer on how the SCI hierarchy is constructed. According to this scheme, autoformalisation of natural language proofs is strictly harder than the Halting Problem.
I havenāt had a chance to check on the bona fides of the authors.
This is all beyond my level, but Iād love to see what our local experts think of it in light of the recent gish galop.


That 2015 quote was a real stinger. Literally the future-tense version of āwe destroyed the world but think of all the shareholder value we created along the way!ā


Knowledge workers of the world, unite; you have nothing to lose but your teeth.


Most of rationalism seems to be āMaking up a guy and getting mad at himā doesnāt it?


good lord, the egos on all of them


āconsortā and ācompassionā are doing some serious lifting there


Help, i invented rokuās basilisk and now my remote control doesnāt work


They love matrix algebra like Hitler loved dogs.


jonny is always a good read!
Edit: good lord it keeps getting better #


I mean, if I wanted to be childish Iād say that Nateās ok chasing all the users off because heās used to playing with himself.
Ya see, the OP was being perfectly reasonable.


Is this a play to get openai out of its obligations to microsoft?
Just a smol oopsie doodle


David sure called this one. O_o


TESCREAL schism indicator


Unikitty did it first!


hogher
Bristley? Invasive? Dangerous? Not kosher?
A local sneer enthusiast sat through the Nashville Thiel lectures so that we wouldnāt have to:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/1x4b4au/notes_from_the_room_peter_thiels_antichrist/
Itās neat that there are two of us!