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Yay we’re finally getting ai slop reddit posts reshared on lemmy, what a glorious day
Slop?
slop, look at the hubcaps
No no, somebody actually build a full sized car, that looks like a match box car, is charged directly from a household outlet and flipped it for the memes. Hmm… Ok that’s sounds actually fun xD
Would it still be funny if it was photoshopped? Is it the AI that makes it not funny?
I mean I wouldn’t put it past some of the DIY channels I’ve been seeing lately
I don’t usually appreciate AI pics, but this was really funny, like this is the first pic I was aware is AI and still found funny.
iCarn’t
For those who lived in blissful ignorance of this abomination
Allegedly Apple chose that design because they didn’t want people to get the wrong idea by using their Apple mouse while it was charging and think it might be a wired mouse. Although they apparently get pretty good battery life at least.
The LG wireless mouse my work tossed at me gets like 3 months to the charge as a mouse that’s used for mouse heavy work 40 hours a week, so I wouldn’t be at all shocked if apple achieved similar (although the LG has a charging port where any wired mouse would have the wire go in, so you can actually use it while it charges like a normal mouse!)
Although they apparently get pretty good battery life at least.
Every single one in have ever used has had terrible battery life
I’ve had the same cheap Logitech M705 mouse at work for over 10 years. It takes two AA batteries that last for around two years with daily use. Cost $30 when I first got it.
They do still sell it but have cheaped out a bit over the years - the scrollwheel is now plastic instead of metal and the sensors aren’t as good - but it still has that great battery life.
I don’t understand how these newer, fancier mice can’t achieve the same thing. I really hate that everything is moving towards built-in batteries. AAs are easy to instantly replace and I have a bunch of Eneloop rechargeable ones.
The mouse I was provided by work is an MX Anywhere 3S likely purchased around 2023, and I charge it maybe once a year? Infrequently enough that I honestly can’t tell you. There is a very noticable improvement in quality from Logitech’s ~$30 mice to this one, but the AA battery powered one it replaced lasted a good 3 months or more before it needed new batteries as well
They could, but what sells is faster polling rates, lower latency and maybe some arghgeebee
well yeah, half of the users would’ve just left it plugged in all the time if they were able, defeating the point.
defeating which point? of using it conveniently? you know, without suddenly your mouse discharging and you not being able to use it until you charge it in unusable position?
Don’t forget this gem
(idk how to embed images on Lemmy)
The fun part of that is you have to charge the ipad first. And Then you can charge the pen using that new ipad charge. I’m charging this thing twice just for one charge basically. No wonder i don’t use it.
Lemmy uses markdown for formatting. If you’re unsure how to do something, you can look up “how to x in markdown.” For example, a DDG result for “how to embed images in markdown”:
https://www.markdownlang.com/basic/images.html
That site has lots of other markdown tutorials if you’re inclined to browse. If you want to experiment with the syntax away from the public eye, there are plenty of editors that will show you live what you’ve created. Many options for doing this locally on your system exist, but so long as you’re not working with sensitive data, I like this online option:
https://markdownlivepreview.com/
Also, some (but certainly not all) Lemmy clients have buttons that will generate the right syntax for you.
Thanks, I didn’t know Lemmy had full markdown support. I assumed it was like reddit, which (last time I used it) didn’t allow image embeds in comments.
Bruh you can embed a whole movie if you want:
Good choice
Inconceivable!
Happy to be of service!
This is a positive implementation, esp. when away from pwr sources. The pencil came with a tip for cord charging.
A company the size of apple should be able to come up with a more sane charging situation, such as maybe a spot it magnets to at the edge of the iPad to charge? Then you can use the iPad while the stylus charges on the go
Are you aware you just predicted the functionality… of the second generation Apple pencil from over 6y ago?
I honestly was not! I’ve not paid too close of attention to the consumer hardware space for…about 6 or 7 years or so now
Can confirm I own one of these and it is stupidly designed! Glad I didn’t pay for it lol
What surprises me most is that I don’t think Apple ever sold an expensive cradle for this mouse to be held upside-down. Die hard Apple fans would have bought it.
They not only bought it, they defended the design choices to the hilt
different people have different opinions, more news at 11
For the full experience, the car would have to look the same from the front and the back, so you wouldn’t know which is the driver seat until You opened the door.
Open the door? Oh no this seamless design requires you enter through the bottom hatch.
By the way, there’s only one pedal.
Time to completely renovate the garage for below-ground entry!
The entry has been removed, you now entirely interact with the car by Bluetooth.
Your iCar gets 64 feet from your house, disconnects, and sits in the middle of the road. Passersby are uncertain if the car is on, off, or died in the middle of use. A few days later, a local child jokingly jostles your iCar while running by. Nothing on the car indicates a change, but the nearest 4 houses see “db2’s iCar” as an available device in their Bluetooth settings. The available Bluetooth car then disappears from the list of available devices. Your iCar travels another 64 feet and stops, waiting for someone to now pair with “TheFartographer’s iCar.”
Pretty flawed design if you ask me
For best experience you should only be able to determine the direction the car is facing by pressing the gas pedal
Apple is incapable of making a good mouse.
Their stubbornness on the mouse front (including refusal to add a second mouse button) at least got their trackpads (and associated gestures and haptics) to be the best in the game.
Still, I prefer using a mouse if I’m actually at a desk, so I just hook up a Logitech to my MacBook.
good is subjective, what you meant to say was “not to your liking”
I mean, check their puck mouse lol.
Go find a mighty mouse and use the right mouse button every day
Try to find me 2 worse designed mice.
Or, tell me the good thing about those 2 mice
The most basic benefit (ease of use) isn’t even good. Because the buttons on the mighty mouse isn’t obvious, I saw a lot of elderly people struggle to Click consistently. And if they wanted to do a right click, it wasn’t going to happen
It might be subjective, but you’ll struggle to find anyone defending these two products
And you definitely will struggle to find anyone who will say that the best spot for a USB port is on the bottom 😂
Let’s say a mouse that is competitive in terms of utility. Function isn’t allowed to follow form in Apple devices; looks are too important. And with that mindset, manufacturers that prioritise function more will always be able to deliver better performing products.
This isn’t a generalizable rule or anything, especially where the competition is limited. And where form doesn’t suffer, Apple is able to do really well, such as with their ARM chips.
Or a good keyboard.
They can make a decent touchpad. They can do a pretty nice touch gui. They still make beautiful displays. But they can’t handle the essentials.
Also trackballs > mouse any day.
With the touchpad, by decent you mean the best in the business, nothing else comes close. I don’t personally like their mouse and keyboard either, but I wouldn’t say it’s bad, just not for me. I like my mechanical keyboard and chunky mouse.
I was actually selling Apple gear when they released the Mighty mouse. It sounded AWESOME. We were so excited. On their ads, it sounded like we’d get a product with touchpad buttons basically that killed their previous (worse) puck mice.
What we got, was an overpriced mouse which was near-damned impossible to click the right button (you got RSI every time you tried) and which was physical click.
Microsoft’s super cheap basic mice we sold 10x faster (at least), and were 1/3rd the price
The reality is, they really f*** up most of their products, but people make excuses for them. Even the iPod shuffle, there were good cheap alternatives (I had one), and mine even had a display. OSX 10 used to have corrupt preferences regularly, SMB was crap until at least OSX 10.5, etc. One release, there was a bug where the network broke completely after a few minutes (there is no way anyone couldn’t have noticed during testing)
My Mac Studio M2 was the only computer I have ever had that had compatibility issues with some USB-C cables (and, it was a few of them from differing brands). Antenna gate, and they tried to water down the problems, by comparing to other manufacturers and said “if you hold them in this totally unrealistic way, you have similar issues”
I think this sounds just a tad biased.
It would be… Sold them for years… But, its informed bias. Owned a Powermac, Mac Pro, and various other gear.
And, the things that people whine about in Apple forums weren’t even the most common issues
Every bit of gear I owned was overpriced considering the issues with the hardware itself.
In fact, I watched as Apple’s market grew as people walked in believing Mac’s can’t get viruses and don’t crash (and this was whilst iLife was super buggy, I was constantly fixing preferences).
Each is entitled to their own opinion, but the only good thing I can credit MacOS for these days, is IOS support built in, and not being as much a clusterfuck as Windows.
In practice, if it wasn’t for IOS support, Linux has basically caught up I feel.
Apple’s following is cult like. Though they don’t usually have major issues like Windows does, there are a fair number of Apple apologists.
Microsoft’s following is more…stockholm-like.
MS did make some decent mice though. For a while, all I would buy was Intellimouses. Going back to like, balls. Not to mention my cool blue serial MS Home mouse. Then I was a Logitech guy for a while (especially after having to deal with their warranty process, like, one of the best, up there with Anker. At least, several years ago. Who knows what’s changed since).
Decent gamepads for the era too. Sidewinder Gamepad was top-notch. I played loads of Quake with that before I learned about WASD. This is pre-analog, and I was actually pretty decent with it, iirc. Not nearly as good as I got to be with WASD tho.
Nowadays I love my Elecom Huge and 8bitdo gamepads.
I’ve been trying (like everyone else) for steam controller.
My sidewinder was awesome. Actually forgot all about it
I won’t be an apple apologist: I’ve gone a decade without buying a new laptop because they were going through their crappy “butterfly keyboard”-phase, and I would never buy one of their mice (I use a >15 year old wired mouse that just works).
That said, if you want a machine that has top-of-the-line hardware, with a UNIX OS, and also the convenience of a commercially polished product, I don’t see any viable alternatives. I’ve used Linux a bit, and that’s pretty close. The only edge MacOS has on Linux is the simple convenience of having things like photos sync directly between units, and very good native support for backups via time capsule. Sure, you can configure/set up the same things on a Linux machine, but that would require some time+effort.
I’ve been thinking of setting up a self-hosted cloud storage for backups for a while. If I get around to that, I might finally make the switch. Regardless, I must admit that no one else is even close to delivering an as streamlined product as apple, that also lets me use Linux-forums when I need to figure out how to use some CLI tool.
(at one point, Apple made a couple of the best keyboards)
a couple of the best keyboards
I like the blueprint font being used for engraving on that photo. Those fonts were standardized for a reason. Still love seeing things with those standard fonts used for engravings on physical items, like my Russian SNILS card (it’s about employment and pensions), but most things are unfortunately something ugly.
I will say that if it had a port on the front my grandparents who bought Macs probably would have unboxed it, plugged it in, and used it like that for a decade without knowing it was wireless lol. And the battery lasts so long on these that it’s not actually an issue really if you’re living with it.
Still stupid tho
“our users are so fucking stupid, we had to kneecap our design and say it was superior”
I read that’s why they did this: to force people to use it wirelessly. Not sure that’s really a big win. Wired mice are just fine with me.
Lived? Aren’t they still selling them like that?
The USB-C version they currently have for $80 on their website has the port on the bottom, yes.
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/mxk53am/a/magic-mouse-usb‑c-white-multi-touch-surface
I don’t think the shape or functionality of the mouse has changed much since the original version that took AAs, so I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if this isn’t even designers being snooty and it’s just Apple not wanting to retool their manufacturing to accommodate a front charging port.
Whether true or not, I remember this being positioned as Apple not wanting people to just leave it plugged in all the time, they wanted people to be seen using a wireless mouse, so they forced you to use it wirelessly.
And this is exactly why I just have cheap mice with separate rechargeable batteries. Also just have enough battery-powered junk to justify it.
Nothing is close enough to the tower for wired, at about 15 foot away, and I’ll never remember to charge something if I cant just plug it in to a separate power source and charge while using.
Smart money would have been on a wirelessly charged mouse and a wireless charging mousepad. But nobody uses mousepads anymore, either, now that underside rollerball tracking isn’t an issue, so you can’t introduce something like that now.
Does such a thing exist, a wireless mouse with wireless charging mousepad? I’d expect it wouldn’t work because the coils would need to be aligned to charge.
No such thing exists to my knowledge no, but it could have back when the apple mouse was first introduced.
I have used a lot of wireless chargers (old phone usb port failed) and… the coil of the charger is typically the least of the problem, the charging coil on the device not matching up with it is usually the bigger issue.
But mice need basically no charge daily, and a mouse largely confined to a set area would, if well designed, always be on the useable charger space, so any mousepad with a trickle charge worth of capability would be plenty.
Turns out it does exist!
https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/shop/p/powerplay-wireless-charging
I didn’t buy one but I have two or three here, because several companies just threw them in with new laptops. I don’t use it because I just hate that design and the ergonomics.
But, I did buy the “you are holding out wrong”-phone.
Still my favorite mouse I’ve ever used. Got it from work and expected to hate it, but there we were. I don’t use it anymore since I switched to Linux. RIP. Now I have a proto arc, which is fine.
sorry this is an apple hate thread, you’re not allowed to go against the grain here
proto arc
Wow, I expected them to be incredibly expensive, they look nice.
Yeah I recommend it if you’re in the market.
Good Lord.
Thank you for that.
Well. You also shouldn’t try to drive a car while charging either…
As the owner I should have the decision to drive while charging
People have been driving off with the fuel pump still connected since they were invented :-)
That’s just the EVolution of the same problem :-)
lol right?
Sometimes it’s important to get an engineer’s thoughts, and not leave everything to the design team
At some point in design someone who read The Design of Everyday Things needs to speak up and be taken seriously or shit like this happens.
Im saving this image for every time I need to charge my car and thus cant go somewhere.
Okay but is that really what EV undercarriages look like?
I don’t think most of them are that closed up, but they do try to make it as smooth as possible for aerodynamics and efficiency
If Apple made it.
Don’t know about all of them, but most I’ve seen have had mostly flat undercarriages.
Most of them are skateboard config, so like 70% of the undercarriage is the flat bottom of the battery
woosh
That’s the sound of air passing around these really aerodynamic cars.
pet the damn car!
It wants a belly rub.
Don’t give apple any ideas!
You mean, don’t let Apple give us any ideas:
you can agree or disagree, but you should at least understand that this was done very much on purpose, for what they consider to be a good reason
So was the holocaust?!
this was done very much on purpose, for what they consider to be a good reason
This is worse than just making a mistake
Hold X to flip iCar
Is it usbc still?
it’s a XL lightning cable
Can you also make it sit up and beg? How about play fetch?
Only after some belly rubs
Best use of AI of all time
Yeah that’s either AI or the worst designed car to ever car.
