As Antonio Gramsci argued, ruling groups maintain power partly by making their ideas seem like common sense. This helps explain the political significance of Metallica’s call for disengagement at a time when Israel’s genocide in Palestine demands urgent international attention. Hetfield’s vague agenda of “love, energy and heavy music” ultimately amounts to a refusal to stand for anything meaningful. And that refusal is itself deeply political.
Those asshats were always posers
Obligatory FUCK LARS! The biggest poser of the bunch.
You’ve gotta try hard to make Fred Durst objectively cooler than you.
Obligatory
God I’ve seen them twice live and used to be obsessed with them in high school. Now I just basically want to vomit looking at this. Like I get it. You got fuck you money. I get it, spend it, but yeah what happened to and justice for all? What happened to one? They are a bunch of posers. Long live fucking file sharing. Everybody should fucking share their files and then absolutely just delete them when they’re done. Fuck these wastes of space bro. By the way, they sucked both times I seen them cuz they played a huge amphitheaters and stadiums and it was impossible to even fucking catch a glimpse of their dumbasses. James, you ought to just go back to drinking yourself to death cuz it would be better than shopping here at Armani or whatever the fuck.
Oh and maybe make a fucking sequel to your shitty whiny pissy baby ass “documentary”, so everybody can witness how big of a bunch of cry babies you are once again.
Girl pop stars got more fucking balls than you guys do you dumb fucking pieces of shit. Fuck off James. Fuck off Lars. Fuck off Kirk. And new guy, whoever the fuck you are you can fuck off too cuz you’re shopping in Armani with James. And you guys all suck nowadays bunch of fucking whiny ass pissy boys
Metallica only serves rich people. No one with a regular job can afford those concerts. These guys used their fans so bad. They’re a stained paragraph to the long story of humans and music. They shouldn’t even be mentioned anymore.
If the fans had any balls, they’d let Metallica disappear forever with their money. It feels like it’s happening anyways which is why they only play for rich people now.
I’ve said it before. Metallica are the old prejudiced white guys of metal. They’re rich and fly around in private jets. They had all kinds of anti-establishment and anti-war lean in their early music and they have walked back those lyrics to “not really mean what they say” these days. Their concert parking lot tailgaters fly Trump flags, thin blue line flags, Gadsden flags, and and firearms flags. Just like the concert attendees wearing clothes featuring Grunt Style, raggedy flags and punisher logos. Then they tour with performative military rock bands like Five Finger douche punch.
They were anti-authority metal that grew up, made money, and decided to be the ones holding the batons and riot guns instead. And they sued fans, ruining lives over money that didn’t affect their rich asses one bit.
Fuck Metallica.
Well said and true to a fault.
They also love to make a big thing about donating money thats not even theirs.
was like 6 years or so ago, tthey made a big deal about donating 250 grand to a romanian childrens hospital.
I said that was a bullshit amount that was perfectly calculated to sound like a lot of money to poor people, without being an actual lot of money, and that it was little more than them buying publicity and advertising, because that 250k was a fuckload cheaper than actual advertising cost, but it got them wall to wall coverage.
and people ripped my ass open in all 8 cardinal directions for it
and it ended up the money didnt even come from them, it came from mastercard it was just funneled through some charity they supposedly control. So they got all the fame for it, without costing themselves one single goddamn cent.
What’s a thin blue line flag?
Support the police flag and I don’t mean the band.
Got it, thanks.
Take it you’re fortunate enough to not be a US shitizen? It’s the stupidest shit, EVER! Really started appearing about 20 years ago. Or at least that’s when I really started to notice them? All over the backs of SUVs/Pavement princesses. This was in a shithole, known as, Berks County, PA.
These days, it’s all over the god damn country. I’m in SEMI, Detroit area, a hotbed for this type of shit. You’ll see a bunch of these fucking losers with jeeps and that shit emblazoned EVERYWHERE. It’s on shirts, flags, you name it!
These knuckle draggers seem to think it’s like having a FOP (fraternal order of Police) plate/badge/sticker, that it’ll somehow let you break laws and get out of tickets. Back the blue and the laws they stand for! But only for the others! Oh, and when it’s convenient for me!!!
These people are hypocrites and they don’t stand for a single fucking thing in life. Indoctrinated to Nth degree. They tell foreigners “They need to come here and respect our laws!” Mind you, these people ignore laws, tailgate up your fucking ass for the slightest inconvenience and much worse! They’re in such a fucking hurry to get a cars length ahead! And then guess what! When they get in front of you, they magically find all the time in the world to drive 5-10 under and just act like passive-aggressive, petulant children.
LOSERS! Every. Single. Fucking. Last. One. Of. Them! Best part, most cops think they’re losers, too! Stickers do nothing unless you’re a hot chick with tits.
Take it you’re fortunate enough to not be a US shitizen?
Pretty much.
I had first heard about it in one of these 3 videos (not sure which, and they’re worth watching - especially if you’re non-murican -, in this order, at least once):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BxvxbZGjlv4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wNtxtuQxUz8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QbXTDuwSVkkNow i know the context, thanks.
The shitty Metallica members don’t fall far from the Lars…
Fuck Lars since the early “Napster” '90’s.
Their last good album was master of puppets only because Dave Mustaine was writing for them.
ba dum tshhh
(out of tempo)
Metallica lost me with the Napster shit. No moves on their part since then have corrected that course.
They have always been awful people (even if I do enjoy their earliest albums)
Their documentary is a painful two hours of the whiniest, most insufferable, overprivileged, man babies. If you ever think the Napster bullshit was a temporary blip, there’s ample evidence that the rot goes all the way through:
there is an unintentional trilogy out there :
- This is Spinal Tap
- Some Kind of Monster
- The story of Anvil
They don’t even know how to treat their own members with dignity and respect.
Fire, bad!
Beer, goooood!
I got that reference
You mean Metallicock.
Metallica stop being relevant when they started suing everyone proving that their lyrics had no bearing on reality and their greed knew no end.
Sad but true
Olivia Rodrigo is more metal than Metallica
Been a metalhead my whole life and fully agree with this statement.
Metallica is the Walmart of metal.
Her music isn’t my cup of tea, but I absolutely love everything she stands up for and what she does. Metallica knows a lot of their base are probably MAGA and I bet most of the band vote MAGA. Fuck those assholes.
Her music isn’t my cup of tea
Have you heard Vampire? I agree completely otherwise, but her vocals in that are AMAZING!
For me it was the lyrics in Brutal
Vampire was an instant earworm for me when it came out, because I’m a sucker for the Creep chord progression. That, and her energy in the song.
So it makes the occasional appearance in my otherwise mostly metal-dominated song rotation.
Ironically(?) her cover of Creep a while ago was the first time I heard her voice. It did make me go, “Huh. Not bad at all.”
Would say the same, maybe because of the age gap. Yet many of her songs are earworms which I enjoy. And I love this collab with Robert Smith from her recent album: https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=8cXUpBguRTA
Did anyone expect Metallica to be principled? They’re copyright trolls for decades, something tells me moral backbone isn’t their strong suit.
They have always been posers. Less metal than a BYU Glee Club.
I grew up in the 80s, and this is just not true, they were metal AF. However, in the 90s they decided to become Bon Jovi, and these days they belong musically in “classic rock”, and their mentality belongs in “out of touch millionaires”.
I’d agree, except I’m guessing glee clubs aren’t allowed at BYU because happiness and music are considered sinful.
Music in general isn’t sinful. There’s acceptable music - the church’s own song books and anything deemed “wholesome.” Lindsy Stirling or whatever flavorless trend is on tap.
So, a small group of lily white return missionaries performing their “new” and “unique” a capella version of “I’m a Believer” would be put on a pedestal and promoted to death.
The music I enjoy is definitely on their “no play list.”
They also have a pretty famous choir…
But fuck their weirdo religion and the damage it does around the world.
What a random and nonsensical article…. I suppose we should also drag Kings of Leon down? I haven’t seen them show support for Palestine either!
In fact we should boycott EVERY artist that ever didn’t display a Palestinian flag on the stage. That’ll show ‘em all!!
Had James just not brought it up, it wouldn’t be a problem. I don’t think that bands are required to bring up politics and defend a side. Sheeran had his hand forced and at that point had to pick a side, and he fucked up. The only reason Metallica is getting scrutinized is because Jamie boy had to make some dumbass comments about not getting political while taking a shot at Macklemore. I was at a concert last weekend, and no bands said anything to draw themselves into a political discussion, and they’re not in the headlines now. It’s simple.
Exactly. Silence was an option.
It is not even political to be anti genocide
I’m an anarcho-communist and with the current state of the discourse around the word “political” I think I could fairly claim communism isn’t political.
Communism is an economical system. The way to achieve is is what is political. Same with Palestine saying free Palestine or i do not want palestinian to be killed is humanitarian, now if you say I support a one state or a two state that’s the political side
Palestine is a political group. All nations are. All cultures are.
But if “political” just means “whatever I think should be controversial”, then communism is apolitical.
Free Palestinians mean free it’s people which is humanitarian not political
And I just wanna protect people from the evils of capitalism. It’s humanitarian, not political.
Politics is the inevitable outcome of humans interacting with each other in groups. Once you get past the 2 person mark politics start to form, mind you it’s not the grand systems one may think of but it is politics.
I think politics is when a group of even two people form a system for working together. A marriage is a political organisation.
I think political agreement or pairing would be a better term. Organization at least to me implies far more people than two, unless they are polyamorous then it’s 100 percent a political organization.
For sure. I don’t think that the conversation has to take place in every setting though. Like I don’t bring up Palestine in every conversation I have. If someone else brings it up, they get to hear my thoughts. If Metallica didn’t want to be associated with the topic, don’t bring it up politics at all. I don’t agree with Sheeran’s response at all, but I do have some level some sympathy that he was forced into the conversation, but that’s it. If he were a better person, he could have garnered insane amounts of support, but he’s not, so he didn’t. Hell, he could have even shielded himself to some extent by just saying that he disagrees with the actions taken against Macklemore and left it at that, even if he carries shitty views. He doubled fucked up by not supporting his friend and by siding with Israel.
In case of Ed, he said to Mac privately that free Palestine hurt genocidal people feeling. That the disgusting thing about Ed. He didn’t have to say that
They just had to go be the musical version of a pick-me, not like other bands! “We don’t do politics” he said, doing politics.
Metallica died with Cliff Burton
This is so disappointing…is it ok to still listen to their old stuff and just pretend that they broke up after Master of Puppets?
You can, but you should know deep down that most of their lyrics are just “bandwagon rides” and pretentious.
Personally, this situation would fall into issues I have with other bands/authors/popular figures and how I handle their material. If I own copies of their media, whether on CD or downloaded files or physical books, I will continue to listen to or read it if I do enjoy it. I will no longer purchase anything new, stream on any platform, or borrow anything from the library as a way to show my non-support.
An example: I loved Coraline by Gaiman. That guy is a gross creep, but I already own a copy of the book and the Blu-ray, so I keep my copies and do not purchase anything I do not already own.
Edit: fixed some grammar because I’m a dork
Gaiman didn’t do any of the real work on teh film, so feel free to enjoy it
The Sandman is what hurts me, but again, he just wrote the words and made the story. There were lots of other people involved and they arn’t creepy assholes
Yeah, but at least for streaming it, I worry about any royalties that may go to him, so I just avoid that risk since I have it on disc. I feel your pain 💚
Is it actually true about gaiman though? Such a bummer if so. I love his writing.
Yeah, like Soggy said, it’s really bad and he hides behind kink, which as a person who is into kink, it really grosses me out because consent is so important in that space. Any seriously problematic author or musician that is that bad, I just can’t support.
That said, if I saw something at the thrift store by a problematic creator, I would consider purchasing it because they don’t get money for it. My favorite thrift store supports the animal rescue where I adopted my rabbits from. They have books and CDs for a dollar so I’m ok buying from them if it’s a piece of media I truly want to absorb and the money would go to a good cause.
Paying my bunny tax
The accounts about Gaiman are truly reprehensible. Nauseating, even. Dude’s a rapist hiding behind kink and non-traditional relationships. (Amanda Palmer is also revealed to be a predatory sociopath at best)
I still have disturbed on my lifting playlist, but I’ve dumped gaiman and die antwoord. Regardless, it was pirated anyways
I do miss Die Antwoord and haven’t found anything else that hits quite the same. Wish I had known the depths of their shittiness before buying a couple vinyls.
What did Disturbed do?
David Draiman (lead singer) did a photo op signing IDF missiles with a sharpie.
In June 2024. Well into the genocide.
That’s disturbing.
Very much so.
Jesus fucking christ.
I really liked some of his covers, but that was beyond grotesque to see.
100% get it
🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🦜
I think it’s a bad idea to let later knowledge ruin music… usually (yes there are some exceptions…don’t read about the band Lostprophets…). Metallica is a band of idiots with bad selfish opinions. That doesn’t mean they didn’t make good art decades ago.
Let it happen naturally: all you have to do is pay more attention to the things Hetfield and Ulrich say and do, then their music will become nauseating. Or don’t and continue to enjoy them, who cares.
Lucky for me I was a Megadeth fan and ignored Metallica over the Mustaine drama when I was a teenager, so when they went mask-off over Napster I locked in my opinion that they suck.
Mustaine is a rightwing douchebag, so its all shit
Yeah I stopped paying attention to him and Megadeth when he went all super-christian.
He sure is. I still enjoy the old Megadeth though.
he was great when he drank a lot
lol
Maybe he was drunk when he wrote “Sweating Bullets”. No matter what that guy does (within reason) that song remains awesome to me
I liked both but as others said, both bands have bad political opinions. I think you can still enjoy music while knowing the creators are not great people. As long as they’re not murderers or rapists or something awful like that.
I didn’t say not to enjoy music if the artists are idiots, just saying you naturally won’t miss the music after finding out enough that’s intolerable about the artist. What is intolerable is up to you, and the opinions of others is what I meant by ‘who cares’, I should have finished the sentence: “… who cares what others think.”
i never give a shit about if an artist is a terrible person. im just listening to music
im just listening to music
What you’re doing is paying them to continue being a terrible person
no I’m not
Where do you think musicians get money from?
their label
on that note, are you supporting slavery by using devices with materials mined from slaves?
Yes. There is a difference in the degree of choice one has; lots of good music out there… Not so many choices for ethical electronics beyond reduce, reuse, and recycling.
well, same how i feel about music. plenty of good music out there, i cant refuse it if its good
Music is a core part of culture, and a large part of how one’s worldview is created and normalized. Listening to music made by assholes has potential to make you a bigger asshole.
Posers
