fuck. They threatened to kill her mother. What the fuck.
Standard practice for the FSB, and I would be very surprised if Mossad and CIA amongst others didn’t do similar things.
Every secret service on this planet do these kind of things.
I sometimes doubt ours are competent enough, but they’ll probably try
From everything I’ve read of the CIA, incompetent is downplaying it.
They’re monsters, that cannot be said enough. But incompetent monsters.
Their modus operandi mostly seems to be using proxies and cutouts. The CIA would never threaten your family. Instead they hand out guns to the people who already hate you and your family, and then sort of just hope for the best.
They also do abductions to black sites, but mostly they seem to be the logistics service of evil giving out money, guns, and drugs to, well, often literal Nazis.
The CIA is a masterclass in spying and recruiting, primarily as a result of practically unlimited funding. They utilize all the novel gadgets you hear about — shit like lasers bouncing off windows to record audio, or reconstructing video from a cameras electromagnetic radiation, or using WiFi to target individuals within a room, or …
But it goes a lot further. They will open entire business fronts in foreign states and maintain them for the sake of fronting. They will send spy’s into other nations to assume a role as a local and casually collect information. They will survey people like janitors, assistants, … for anything of leverage… kid sick with cancer? They’ll pay for treatment at the best hospitals in the world to recruit you, if they believe you can get valuable information.
They’ll go through entire rounds of interviews designed to profile you behaviorally. Their hiring practices have been claimed to actually weed in people with sociopathic tendencies — people with a sort of main character complex who can adequately justify doing bad things because “we’re the good guys” and for “national security.”
The shit they’ve gotten away with is bonkers. Files are constantly being released over the years, we have glimpses into their operations, yet we do nothing to instigate meaningful change. It’s bonkers. You know they were testing hypothetical truth serum on customers in American coffee shops?
It’s very important to understand that no one anywhere knows what the fuck they’re doing the moment a problem is anything more than engineering.
lol
May I interest you in the history of the CIA?
Whatever you think of their competence, I’m quite confident they have resorted to threatening family members on multiple occasions.
Classic. “If you don’t do as I say I will hurt you.”
“Fuck you!”
“Ok. I will hurt your mother…”
It’s dark and ancient.
Pretty cool how this turned from the FSB to the CIA in two whole comments.
Effective operation.
As long as Guantanamo is open I think Americans shouldn’t pipe up so much.
Oh you think the FSB is bad? Well so is the CIA.
Fucking stupid how many upvotes these comments are getting
The FSB are monsters. We are all in agreement there. It’s just a bit rich coming from Americans is all.
How? No, seriously, how is an American being appalled at someone’s mother being threatened rich?
People like you behave as if every American is actually a part of the military/intelligence community. Eurobrain never ceases to amaze.
You’re right. The original article is completely excusable because, as you say, everyone does it.
Well made point you have there.
Great strawman. You jump to conclusions which happen to be erroneous.
It’s just ridiculous with Americans acting all high and mighty when they fucking invented that shit.
The FSB is one of the most despicable intelligence organizations on this planet, on par with Mossad and the CIA.
I wonder from which of the dark triad you mentioned downvoted your comment. Lemmy has been infiltrated by well funded bad faith actors.
As I have often commented, I am very sure that the FSB has some accounts here on Lemmy, mostly concentrated on the .ml instances. The downvotes you see are are probably from them.
The amount of ml accounts I’ve tagged “Russia shill” is… Well probably not shocking to you, but the number is high.
I can never decide if they’re paid or just really, really stupid to shill for the fascists parasitizing their bae’s corpse.
The greatest trick propaganda plays is to make people repeat it for free.
A lot of ruzi sympathizers especially on the .ml instance.
All this over punk art.
culture can have a profound effect on society.
Culture is full of ways to resist and subvert authority. Writing and music can inspire, motivate and mobilize people in huge numbers. Even graffiti and street art can just spread ideas with minimal effort. It can raise money and fund resistance.
It’s why a lot of authoritarian governments try so hard to stamp on culture. They know it’s power and they fear it.
Arts and education are the first to be suppressed by authoritarians because it stop these natural outlet to voice dissent.
Culture needs to be doing more. Where’s my fucking sketchbook…
They need to make a TV series based on Pussy Riot.
Just a film will do.
Big respects for Pussy Riot. Didn’t know that things were this bad in Russia, but then again, I haven’t heard music from them so knew something was up.
I’m so grateful I got to see them live (in a venue that served perogies nonetheless). They were literally sent to Siberia. Russia is absolutely fucked for queer people. It’s what the US wishes
Oh man the Russian state and this band: In any other country pussy riot would not have been seen as especially subversive. They would not have made it to the news and no one would know them.
The Chinese equivalent The Five Feminists:
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/china-feminist-five-performance-artists-288236
Fucking Narc.
Snitches get stitches and talkers get walkers.
Russian intelligence is pretty famous for the amount of blackmail and extortion they unleash on people that they want to turn into assets.
What would you have done to resist that?
Way to go, tough guy! Very easy to be brave behind a keyboard. I bet you’d spill your beans if they threatened to clip your nails.
No you’re right, we should start cheering for the people who sell out their friends because…checks notes … The opposition is scary…
Coward.
They were actually pretty smart if they kept up the appearance of being compliant while no one actually got hurt. I’d say most people wouldn’t be able to keep such a delicate balance. Kudos to her.
I’d love to see what you do when people with a history of murders start threatening your family.
Where is the line though?
What if (yes this is a big what if) Trump was pressured in the same way?
Where is the line?
I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make. He’d burn down the entire country to avoid a single gut punch if he believed that would save him from getting hurt.
