One side is far more powerful and commiting genocide, the other is poor and simply trying to survive. Currently it is not complex at all.
My initial position after those first attacks from Hamas were Isreal has the right to defend itself, but what has happened since then is so far beyond the scope of what is acceptable, it is horrible.
There’s a deeper level to it. Israel, especially netanyahu over his long career, created the entire situation. And they did it directly and intentionally
Palestine used to be governed by the PLA. Hamas are hardliners - their founding goal was to turn the region against Israel and drive out the Israeli people. Hardliners are the least effective form of any movement
Israel held elections for Palestinians, giving them an official group to negotiate with, as well as some legal recognition that allows them to collect funds
As soon as Hamas won a single election, they stopped holding elections and the PLA leaders were assassinated soon after
Not to mention the on again off again attacks… Israel would build them infrastructure like hospitals and desalinization plants, then blow them up
There’s a lot to say on the topic, so I’ll end it with a fact that really puts things in contrast…
Before October 11, the average age in Gaza was under 18, and it isn’t like their population numbers were booming
Lust for power and wanting to be godlike is pretty surface level. Nothing too deep there. Same-old, same-old throughout history.
There’s a lot more to it than that… It’s a complicated situation primarily motivated by a lust for power and profit, but there’s layers and layers to it. There’s many involved interests and much to learn about how and why horrible things are happening
It’s easy to point to a war criminal and just label them as evil, but then you learn nothing useful
No one is evil in their own story, and by understanding the motivations and methods of great acts of evil you can understand where to apply pressure to stop it, as well as recognizing these same patterns elsewhere before it ends in another example of the worst crime against humanity
Isreal has the right to defend itself
Israel has been on the offense for 80 years, read a damn history book. PRETENDING that this began on Oct.7 is intellectual dishonesty and evidence that you regurgitate talking points sans critical thought.
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still a completely pro Israel take.
how can there be peace when Israel kidnaps Palestinians off the streets with impunity?
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No signs of escalation like, say, sniping children in the crowd of a peaceful protest at the walls of a ghetto?
The most complex political issue on the planet remains how to handle climate change.
I always try to give people the benefit of doubt. But now he’s said too much for that to apply.
The entirety of Palestine, Gaza, and Israel is complex. Though, it has to be said, part of that is because Israel has done everything in their power to keep it “complex”. When serious progress was being made in the early years of their nation. Their response was to assassinate the mediator. Yes. Really. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folke_Bernadotte (Oh I mean… It was totally these extremists, a rebel group, and in no way was Israel involved, they investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing!)
The Israeli genocide in Gaza however. Is not very complex. It’s quite simple. It’s a genocide. And they need to be held accountable. Though I wouldn’t hold my breath.
The only thing making it complex is that Jews were the victims of a genocide too. Nothing more to it than humans not learning from history.
Is is maintain the status quo which is Israelis exterminating Palestinians
Keep digging that hole, Ed.
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Look, Ed. It’s actually quite simple: A nazi state called Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza after they fabricated a terrorist attack so Bibi the nazi could declare a war and avoid prison. And a good portion of the nazi country is actually not ok with the genocide because they’d like bibi to hit them harder.
My perception of this dude went from:
Okay maybe he likes sticking his head in the sand cause of money.
To:
He fully knows what he is doing and is complicit.
What a royal fuck up.
Also, my own two cents.
This never started as complex, and imo it’s not complex now. It is to Israel’s benefit for it to be seen as complex so they can do false equivalency.
A bully would love for observers to believe that both sides are equally in the wrong.
Hey Ed, why don’t you just go down and talk to a couple of Palestinians to get make it less complex?
“genocide bad” is not complex at all, actually.
Why is anyone surprised?
Isn’t Netanyahu wanted for genocide?
Only by like 5-6 countries.
At least he didn’t support this guy:
It’s not that complicated Ed. I got a pretty clear picture from an hour of research. Maybe if you get out of your algorithm for 20 minutes you might find something more tangible on the situation than a few chapters from a dusty religious text and the word of a bunch of rich assholes with vested interests in the region.
A couple years ago it was complex. The complexity just stopped mattering once Israel turned the conflict into a war of annihilation.
It was always this simple at its core. What made it complex was that most people believed Israeli lies.
Right now, Israel is doing exactly what they’ve done since the very first day. They’re just doing it faster now, and in the age of ubiquitous video coverage and information flow.
My first thought when he said that.
Kids dying isn’t complex bro. Like isn’t he fuckin Irish?
Kids dying is the end product of an extremely complex political situation. What’s difficult for you to understand here?
