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    Didn’t his base want to get rid of all the Mexicans? 'Cause adding Mexico as a state will mean taking in, like, all the Mexicans…

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      You think they’d get to stay in Mexico? Nah, they’d get the Native American treatment. They’d be forcibly marched through hostile lands “peacefully relocated”, and forced to live in inhospitable and unworkable areas “given a reservation of land to live on.”

      Then when America wanted to expand again, America would repeatedly and unapologetically encroach on the reservations “renegotiate treaties” to claim more land. All the while, the government would be attempting to eliminate their culture by kidnapping their kids for white Americans to raise “generously re-homing needy children”

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        You are absolutely correct. But I would like to point out that many of the peoples of Mexico are Native Americans. As a tribal member myself I like to remind people that we didn’t cross the border, the border crossed us.

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          No shit, there are a large amount of USAmericans who don’t understand this. I have brought this up to people arguing about “Mex’cans in 'Merica”. They honestly don’t know this, and when they realize it’s true they just double-down on their bullshit. It gets in their way of trying to justify their fear of brown people.

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      Naw, we’ll just deport them anyway, and take their beachfront property.

      Trump can get some advice from Bibi

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        I think Trump really wants to try a Hitler on all of the Americas. I wonder if BRIC will be able to stop him like the soviets did in WW2?

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      Didn’t his base want to get rid of all the Mexicans?

      Yes.

      They’re not gonna let the Mexicans live in Mexico any more than this assclown’s best bud bibi is letting gazans live in Gaza. Any land grab will look the same. And wow, do they have no fucking idea what they’d be up against.

      Trump could unite the cartels …against America.

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        They used Poland as a military governed area to deport people, then perform extrajudicial killings… then they started settling it with Germans.

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      I’m sure he’s already thought of adding the new state renamed like “South America” or something. They’re all Americans now …… plus a new reason for invading Venezuela and any other country that infringes on the name of our 52nd state

      /s

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    What’s insane is that he doesn’t need to change up the playbook for keeping the discussion off him being a child sex trafficker who is, with the support of the Republican party, protecting other child sex traffickers and pedophiles.

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      I agree, as long as he’s in the mood for sharing, maybe he should try sharing more of the Epstein files too.

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      To be fair both parties are complicit.

      Edit: to whoever downvoted this, are you aware that Biden was president after Epstein died? Also wasn’t Obama president after he was originally charged? They would have had access to any information that was available.

      I’ll agree that voters on the left want to punish everyone however, and people on the right are happy to keep voting for pedos. Most politicians from both sides are shit though.

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        are you aware that Biden was president after Epstein died? Also wasn’t Obama president after he was originally charged

        The problem with this point of view is it ignores that while Biden and Obama did some bad things, they overall do not seem to be bad people. Again… shitty things were done. But in general, they tried to follow the rules of their job. Republicans don’t care about rules, they only care about enrichment.

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          Uh no, if you do bad things, you are a bad person. That’s how words work.

          I don’t think that people that drone strike weddings and support a genocide are not bad people. YMMW.

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            Completely misconstruing what I actually said to project what you wanted to hear, but YMMV strawman.

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              Sorry, do you not think that Obama and Biden did those things, or you don’t think they make people bad people to do them?

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                do you not think that Obama and Biden did those things

                You built a strawman, I rejected it, so you added more straw.

                Biden and Obama did some bad things

                I said Obama and Biden did bad things. What part of that wasn’t clear?

                Motivation matters more than you are implying. I would prefer no one did anything shitty, but I live in the real world. A good person doing shitty things is infinitely better than a shitty person doing shitty things. The good person will show restraint and attempt to contain damage. A shitty person won’t care who get’s in the way or what happens, as long as they get whatever self-enriching thing they are trying to achieve.

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                  It’s not a strawman. You said they were good people. I’m saying good people don’t support genocides and drone strike weddings.

                  And you are willing to excuse that . . .

                  Motivation matters more than you are implying

                  Maturity is realizing that bad people think they’re the good guys too. Hitler thought he was saving the Germans and the world from the Bolshevik-Jewish menace.

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        I’d rather step on some Democratic rabbit shit, than a colossal pile of human diarrhea that is the Republican Party though.

        Scale matters and both sides are not the fucking same by any reasonable measure.

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    Eh.

    Can keep calling him insane. Doesn’t mean much. He’s a fascist. That’s what we need to start calling him. And while we used to know exactly what to do with fascists, it seems we’ve lost our nerve.

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    This is propaganda, and it’s working. This is a distraction ploy. This is being done solely to absorb your limited attention. They’re pulling a Kansas City Shuffle.

    We should ignore this, and every other instance of Trump saying anything, he’s blustering for your attention while they tear everything else apart. They are actively making moves to stop the midterms from happening, continuing to drop bombs on ceasefire areas, completely disregarding an impending hurricane for anyone outside Mar A Lago, refusing military death payouts as they send more people into yet another meat grinder they refuse to call a war for clerical reasons, and allowing disease to spread through our food supply with no regard other than profit.

    Nobody is immune to propaganda, if you’re mad about this pointless nonsense then it worked on you.

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      Yep. That’s what Bannon has been explaining. By the book. We know it. Why do we keep falling for it??

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        God damnit, no. Epstein files are also a distraction ploy. Here’s the thing, nobody is ever going down because of the Epstein files. Not one. Not ever. There is a magical thing that happens when literally everyone in politics is involved with a thing, if one domino falls the rest follow. Everyone in those files is wqtching and protecting the backs of everyone else in those files and literally everybody in power is in those files. They may as well not exist, the files are no more than a ghost, an ephemeral dead visage of what was and could have been. They’re gone. Absolutely nobody in a position to do a god damned thing about it ever will, because they’re in the files. There is no more powerful a pact. We lost that one. It really fucking sucks. Move past it and look at the reality of now and the actuality of things, as mich of a tragic misscarriage of justice as it was staying lazer focused on the epstein files has allowed further and equally as blatant acts of heinous cruelty to pass by without notice.

        There is and always has been more than ten god awful things happening, absolute atrocities, at all times. When we focus on one specific aspect of what is now a dead tendril the rest act and continue their functions without regard, concern, or notice.

        Stop beating dead horses in the middle of a stampede.

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    “And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”

    It doesn’t surprise me when this is the mentality that is running America. He’s a ‘star’ that’s trying to grab the world by the pussy. How long until the insanity ends?

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      How long until the insanity ends?

      Until we all stop being pussies

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      I knew the U.S. was fucked when conservatives/regressives just shrugged the grab 'em by the pussy remark off.

      That was the point I knew for certain that they were amoral and that we were in for some bad times.

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      How long before the insanity ends. About two years then we get a new president and we get a new form of insanity.

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        Bold of you to assume He’ll just hand the keys over.

        Trump will not leave the Whitehouse peacefully.

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          I’m starting to get a bad feeling about that bunker under the east wing… they keep talking about how important it is for national security, which for Trump means his own personal security.

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              Oh the bad feelings in general have existed for awhile… since about 2015 I’d say. But what I mean is that I have this feeling specifically about the bunker - that it is how Trump intends to not leave the White House (pure speculation, no real evidence).

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            I’ve been trying to tell myself to keep the conspiracy theorist thoughts out, but it’s looking more and more like that isn’t just a theory.

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      It’s vile that I had never heard something so crass even in a locker room, but these fuckers in suits with gajillions of dollars can do it on video and every just kinda went along like that was the new acceptable standard.

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    So exactly who thought he was sane before, and why did this particular bit of demented bat shit fucking insanity change their minds after all the other demented bat shit fucking insanity hadn’t?

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      Stop it, he’s not insane. He’s acting completely rationally. He is a serial child rapist and when people talk about that he makes less money. So he will very rationally say and do any crazy shit imaginable to keep people from talking about how he rapes children and has zero remorse. When we talk about how “crazy” and “insane” and “demented” he is, we are falling right into his track. We’re no longer talking about the thousands of children that have been sexually abused by him and his literal ring of pedophiles that runs the country.

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    The rest of the world knew he was an insane option to be elected president since 2010, Americans are just figuring this out

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        My guess is that Norway offered coastline to defend on the Atlantic, whereas Sweden’s coast is toward the Baltic Sea.

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            I agree. Maybe less haha and more boohoo? A cosmic joke where the first sign of the destroyer is a grinning poop emoji?

            The shoehorning of a grey, sensibly passionless murdercar, into a colorful, silly, joyous game-product, is a beautiful analogy for how fascism has unwrapped its fully formed chode inside the opium blisses of colonized minds who thought they were ecstatically dancing, while actually slumped in a corner wireheading as the world dies.

            💩

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        And greenland was never occupied by magats. Like the maga “map of America” I was responding to, that is a nazi propaganda/aspirational map of lebenstraum.

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          pretty sure this is just a map of axis control at some point in ww2

          the lebensraum idea excludes like half of this territory

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            And frequently the idea included half this much territory again, extending into Russia. Regardless, my only point is “history is trying to rhyme”.

            Feel free to jump down the rabbit hole if your hyper focus holds, and report back to me the exact timeframe this is from and information it is trying to convey.

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    I am tired of hearing about what he “thinks” and what other people “think” about it.

    Is it too much to ask to get a motherfucker hanged?

    I mean hanged from a lamp post, like an effigy, but in gold, so as a salute to his glorious reign of prosperity and peace?

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        Trump made me realize that the world really is just an upside down clown parade, nothing ever changes, just bozos replacing bozos, and it’s an absolute miracle that we haven’t offed ourselves at this point. Either willingly or like some dumb lemming just running face first into a fire- god knows we’ve already had a few mishaps and unsavory bits along the ride. We went through a lot though, but then again, back when volcanoes were our main obstacle in life, we at least knew how to live off the splendor and grace of a pristine world. Today, that splendor and grace is extinct.

        I use Lemmy as my personal notepad I hope you don’t mind.

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      Sarcasm:

      That’s not very American of you. Don’t you know the real American way is to line up at voting kiosks and hold extra meaningless cry sessions whilst holding their ARs? Not actually start a fire and willinglu sit in a tunnel for years just to set a point across.

      Whenever somebody complains about the American government having guns, just remember every insurgent that fought the American military might in sandals, rags, anger or otherwise.

      Rebellion is not about winning, it’s about getting lucky enough or holding out until luck shows itself.

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    The country and media continue to engage with Trump’s obvious AI distraction spam. Do some real news.

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    So just another Tuesday.

    Hey Congress, you realize it is your job to reel this idiot in right?

    I know, they don’t care. Money being made and people getting elected and all that.

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    Sorry I didn’t read all the comments if it was said, at some point world leaders need to treat him like a toddler. Oh great picture Trump, we’ll put that on the fridge. Notice how you almost stayed in all the lines and almost used all the correct letters, you get one scoop of ice cream from our presidential stock. Give him the crap we give to kids on holidays

    That was flippant I know but I think if they were properly shunned the US will either learn or accept their place at the table with Russia and North Korea. They are not serious people in any way or form, pretending they are is just enabling the asshole Americans to act like they’re winning, which they don’t understand politics to see how much they’ve lost. Which they would if they bothered to vote in people to help their education system and not be in their situation.

    Oh they have all the nukes, yes but can they even aim them these days outside of killing fishermen and schoolchildren? They lost logistics for their carrier, the best known bits of the US military was logistics. The ice cream barge in WWII would be diluted into the ocean under these people. Morale is highly under appreciated by these people.

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      So I get it, half of us suck ass. I wish people would stop saying " Americans" as if all of us want this shit stain to have any form of power. He shouldn’t even have power over his own television, that’s how useless he is. Call them Trump supporters, not Americans. They go against everything the rest of value dearly. Calling them Magats is also acceptable.

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        Considering the fact that the Americans who don’t worship Trump seem to spend most of their time clutching their pearls about how some people don’t like the latest Disney movie and constantly insist that holding a weekend sign-waving parade a couple of times per year is all they should be reasonably expected to do to fight a fascist regime that’s killing people by the thousands and creating chaos all around the world, I think condemning the country as a whole is appropriate.

        But hey, maybe a few more Luigi memes will make Trump go away.

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          Or maybe judging every person in a country because of the actions of one man and his followers is a very Trump supporter thing to do. Just to make sure you understand, if you with your mindset and way of thinking were born here, you would probably be a red hat wearing piece of garbage just like them.

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            If I was born in the United States, and my country’s democratically-elected government was threatening to annex its neighbours, bombing countries unprovoked, allowing hundreds of thousands of people to die due to suddenly reneging on expected aid and generally doing everything in its power to destroy the concept of democracy around the world I’d like to think my biggest concern wouldn’t be that some of the people in the countries being attacked aren’t going out of their way to fluff my ego. The fact that that does seem to be the biggest concern of so many Americans says a lot.

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              Yeah because you are the only one being hurt by this man huh? You, who don’t even live here, being affected the most by his bull shit. No, your biggest concern is attacking the people who are also hurting just like you. Go f yourself

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              Genius fucking mentality btw. I hate some Americans so I’m gonna say shit that makes me an enemy to ALL Americans.

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                When US tanks roll into my country, I am not going to give two shits about who the tank driver voted for.

                Your fascism is destabilizing the world, and the rest of us are tired of the excuses like “I didn’t vote for it”. Fucking great for you. Guess what, the billions of other people on the planet didn’t either and we’re the ones suffering the consequences. People in other countries have died directly because of the actions of YOUR country. Some by bombs, some by yanking support, and some by just plain old apathy.

                “Don’t blame me, I didn’t vote for him” is god-damned fucking tone deaf. “My conscience is clean, so you cannot hold me accountable.” Abdication of responsibility for the actions of YOU government. If you do nothing for real to stop it, then you are complicit.

                Half of the people who voted, voted for this, and a full third of people didn’t vote at all. That means that two out of 3 Americans let this happen.

                “My conscience is clean, so you cannot hold me accountable.” All Americans, even the ones who didn’t vote for him benefit from the economic imperialism the US has been enforcing upon the world. The average American is 84 times richer than the average African. Even if you are dirt poor, your quality of life far exceeds the vast majority of the world.

                So I’ll kick it back to you, “genius fucking mentality you have” that you think anyone in any other country will have any bit of sympathy for the average American, since it’s your country that you have benefited from the wealth and opulence of that is causing nearly every fucking problem the world is experiencing right now.

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                  Do you think any Americans give a shit about your horrible opinion? We have just as many problems as the rest of the world. You don’t live here, you dont know the actual people. You are making judgements of an entire country of people because of the actions of the few. I dont care how many bad things you bring up that America has done, I can research some fucked up shit that your country did too because guess what? Every country has fucking problems. Thinking you are somehow better than me because you don’t happen to live in my geography is literally Maga mentality. Might as well be Nazi mentality. You think im somehow more responsible for this shit than you because of where I was born? You’re cooked in the head man. You’re cooked.

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                  “Your fascism” riiight MY fascism. Let me just look up the worst leader of whatever country you are from and I’ll assume you are just like them. No matter who you support or who YOU are as a person. I’m going to pick the worst person I can find and tell everyone that you are the same.

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        And the other half isn’t doing shit about it.

        They go against everything the rest of value dearly

        Nah, he’s just too stupid to lie about it well. But violating international law and the like is normal American behavior.

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          “And the other half isn’t doing shit about it.” That’s some opinion for someone with no experience of talking to actual Americans. Your level of confidence in your ignorance is the exact problem with the half of my country I’m on the verge of a Civil War with.

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            That’s some opinion for someone with no experience of talking to actual Americans

            Uh no - I’m an American who emigrated in 2022. Prior to that, I had spent much of my time in political activism - among them organizing protests against the Iraq War, electoral work for the Democrats, multiple DSA chapters (and associated electoral work), and SRA and other left-wing groups.

            I am VERY well aware of not only Americans, but also the standard belief that international law can be routinely ignored, and there’s no individual civic responsibility other than hectoring others to Vote Blue No Matter Who and watch late night talk shows to be told you’re smarter than the other side.

            I’m on the verge of a Civil War with

            Oh, are you armed? Prepared? Have you organized with others so you’re ready to fight?

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              “Prepared?” More than you mother fucker you ran away. I don’t have the privilege of being able to do that or I would. So enjoy having the honor of trashing your former country members who are in a lot of pain right now (pain you SHOULD apparently understand) while we fight for a land you abandoned like a bitch so you could stay in a safe place and laugh at our pain on the internet with strangers. Strangers who probably judge you just for being an American. You take your shitty self wherever you go. Maybe it is better that you aren’t here, we don’t need scared bitches who cry and run away, we need fighters. Not that I wouldn’t run if I could and take everyone i love with me, but I can’t. I do know that if I could I wouldn’t do it, then turn around and attack the ones I left who are still in it. What kind of fucked up monstrous sub human kind of walking cum dumpster fire would I be?

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                More than you mother fucker you ran away

                Yeah, after spending my time, including arrests, fighting. You weren’t there, were you?

                I don’t have the privilege of being able to do that or I would

                Of course you do. Just like you have the privilege of organizing now. But you aren’t, are you?

                while we fight for a land you abandoned like a bitch

                You’re not fighting. That’s exactly the point. You expect to have sympathy while you do nothing.

                if I could and take everyone i love with me

                My little keyboard warrior, I have plenty of people back there. Who are in danger. And are actively fighting.

                You are not.

                What kind of fucked up monstrous sub human kind of walking cum dumpster fire would I be?

                The kind that does nothing while their government kills millions in their name, which is bad enough - but then wants to be excused from judgement even for their own inaction. Who wants to somehow feel morally superior to the MAGA chuds, despite doing nothing to stop them.

                In other words, you’re a typical American. And I’m judging you precisely because of that. I’m not laughing, I’m simply not giving you special consideration like you seem to think the world should.

                I will advise you that your American exceptionalism is quickly evaporating. I would very much advise you to fix your attitude quickly, or the world will be doing that for you.

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                  Jesus Christ you have no depth to level of pos that you can be, do you? How tf would you even know if I’m fighting or not. I’m def doing more than a worthless bitch abandoner who thinks the world will embrace them because you left. When the shit hits the fan like you say, you won’t be safe either you stupid fuck. You will be blamed because you were born here just like everyone else. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not understand that bigotry is a double edged sword. You have to be stupid as fuck…so fucking stupid.

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          Yeah I don’t know what you get away with in your country. Maybe you are allowed to have asshole points of view because people aren’t used to spotting the red flags yet. When the rest of you all who are condemning ALL Americans as if we are all the same start spouting off your bullshit you just sound like a red hat wearing piece of sub human garbage like all the rest of the biggots.

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            See above - I am a former American. Partially because of actually taking action is why I don’t live there anymore.

            Aside from a VERY small minority, you are all the same when it comes to actual action or taking responsbility for your murderous government. And you people that want to whine “not ALL of us” are not those exceptions, in my experience.

            Perhaps I’m wrong - want to explain to me exactly how you’re opposing this government that is murdering children?

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              And what exactly the fuck are you doing? And what exactly the fuck would you have me do? I don’t have a god damn army at my disposal or I would do a reverse January 6th on his ass. If they ever drafted me, I would explain very clearly that if they put a gun in my hand I would use it to immediately kill myself with it. I joined my city’s division of a group called "Indivisble ". It’s an anti fascism organization that had groups in every major city, even the smaller ones like mine. I live in a red state where I’m mostly surrounded by Trump signs in people’s yards yet the only Trump supporters in my life are family members who I cut off for that very reason. I don’t have to deal with any others unless I’m in public. The reason for this is because, guess what?..There aren’t so many fucking insane Trump supporters, even in a red state, that i cannot successfully avoid them in my day to day. Unless im at work, I dont see them or hear their bull shit (their bullshit that sounds just like yours but using different labels, Americans instead of immigrants or blacks or gays, it doesn’t matter bigotry is all the same) because unlike your twisted media influenced pov of America, we are not 99% Trump supporters. Idk the real percentage, it’s most likely closer to 50%. If I were to do a survey of everyone in whatever place you live, I guarantee about 50% of them would be walking trash and I would include you with them.

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                OK. You want to organize, feel free to DM me your location. I would advise as a start to find your local SRA.

                Take note it WILL put a target on you, and you WILL need to be careful about opsec, infosec, etc as the feds likely have agents in there. Organizing there is one reason I’m not in the US currently. But you want to find others to organize with, that’s where you start. ESECIALLY in red states.

                Having done it, I will say that organizers in red states tend to be more effective, just because of the pressure that’s there.

                Otherwise, start voting with your feet.