OTTAWA — It’s the world’s most awkward breakup.
More than a year after U.S. President Donald Trump casually joked about absorbing Canada and repeatedly threatened debilitating tariffs on its goods, many Canadians are convinced their former pals to the south have lost the plot.
New results from The POLITICO Poll suggest a lasting chill has settled over the world’s former bosom buddies. Americans are rosy as ever about their northern neighbors, but Canadians don’t share the love.
Their message to America: It’s not us, it’s you.
Canadians don’t see Trump’s America as merely an annoyance, the survey found. They consider the superpower next door the world’s greatest threat to peacetime.
As an American this hurts. None of the US allies (former allies?) have done for the US what Canada has. Canada has gone so above and beyond whenever the US has had a crisis (ie. 9/11).
Like how stupid do you have to be to ruin that? And it’s not just POTUS. There have literally been Canadians who were arrested by ICE. Yet, people like Newsom are still trying to entice Canadians to visit the US. Sure, nothing could happen. But if something happens, you could get deported to some random country before you can mount a defense even though Canada shares a land border.
It’s selfish and is a stark juxtaposition against how the Canadians treated Americans. It’s beyond fucked.
As a Canadian this also hurts. A lot.
I don’t want to hate the US, I don’t have issues with a lot of the American people, but I can’t see the actions of the US government as anything less than an adversary and an existential threat.
The thing about existential threats is you have no choice, you cannot ignore them, because even a 10% chance has immense costs, and the expected value of what you should commit to covering them is massive.
Honestly it feels a lot like what Russia did before annexing Crimea and before the war in Ukraine. Down to meeting with and funding separatists, mass propaganda campaigns, etc.
The fascist plague is in Canada too, and Canada has to take action to protect itself from it. Just recently there was a police-led Nazi rally in Toronto. There was another one earlier last year at Christie Pits too but they got pushed out by counter protesters. It’s in government as well, all the cons are trying to bring American politics to Canada
Canada needs to take action before it’s too late
We have a Christo-Nazi fucking up a school board in Hamilton on an anti-woke agenda the Wine moms love. She’s been working with local Nazi, Paul Fromm.
The fascist plague is in Canada too
Yeah, we know, and it’s been an attempt at the US government to get their bullshit up north, and exactly why the Conservatives lost so hard last election. The people up here at least get out and vote when we see the Conservative party aligning with Trump, and in Alberta aligning with “US Separatism”.
Any link to that Police-led Nazi march you’re mentioning? Didn’t read anything on that.
Basically any poll that maps Trump’s favorability by Canadian political party damns the cons for what they are.
I believe it was this protest/counter protest. The protesters were Canada First nazis. Here’s a relevant Reddit thread
I don’t have issues with a lot of the American people
I have a serious issue with about 2/3rds of them. 1/3 voted for the orange sack of mayo and another 1/3 just shrugged.
1/3 voted for the orange fuck and another 1/3 just shrugged…TWICE
As a Canadian with elderly American family this hurts. I want to visit them but don’t want to go down there.
Canada would have done anything for the US. Canada is a good friend.
But the situation has become more like freeing the German soldier in Saving Private Ryan. Helping the USA in 2026 is like putting a bullet in your other friend yourself.
And it is not just how Trump treats Canada. Denmark bled for the US over 9/11 and they got Greenland belongs to the US as thanks. How many Ukranians have died as result of current US policy?
And is it just Trump? Important men all over the world are being held to account over Epstein. Anybody in the US?
The US itself is the biggest victim. The US is murdering its own citizens in the streets. No reaction. Not really. How exactly is that genie going back in the bottle? I was in Chicago when 9/11 happened. The US was never the same after. This has changed it more and more irreversibly.
It is such a sad and tragic end. So much for the shining city on a hill.
how stupid do you have to be to ruin that?
“casually joked” - No sir. PM gave DT the benefit of the doubt by casually joking about trading for California or Vermont, but DT never laughed. DT only doubled down by repeating 51 many times over many months.
That’s what he does. If you think he is joking, he’ll double down. If you react like he’s being serious, he’ll say he was only joking and but then double down later.
He doesn’t know what a joke is. He can make fun of someone but he can’t make an actual joke
That kind of flip flopping only shows he’s an qualified troll.
A troll with nukes.
If that scares you buy a bunker.
In this economy?
It will be really hard to be friends again when at least 70 millions USA citizens voted for this in 3 different occasions. And only a few did a thing to prevent it.
Going back to USA would be like a spouse who keeps going back to an abusive partner.
I hope we improve our friendship with the rest of the world for some peace of mind.
As far as I’m concerned, the US’s do-nothing “resistance” is a bigger problem than the MAGA trash.
I have tired of hearing how many voted for him. How many did anything to stop him? How many are doing anything now?
That is what matters. Lines have been crossed.
I think many Canadians are simply fed up with the charade that America is our friend. They never have been. Not under any President. Trump might be completely inept and therefore making it obvious, but America has always considered Canada to be theirs. Only an independent country so long as we toe their line. We must always support them and come to their aid but may never surpass them in any way. For that we must always try to keep a friendly posture so that they have no “excuse” to invade us.
Of course that is all about government. There are many individual people who might like Canadians. Be family. Be friends. Doesn’t change the nature of their government though. It truly believes that the world is theirs to do with as they wish and Canada is just a small country in that equation. America is and always has been the country that many people recognize Russia or China to be. We have to find a way to live with them but it would be a huge mistake to go back to thinking that they are actually friends or even allies.Considering that it has been less than 100 years that America has been considered our ally (the entire purpose of Confederation in 1867 was to form a strong Canada that could defend itself against the American foe), the needle has been pointing to ‘enemy’ longer than it has been pointing to ‘ally’. History will regard the ‘friend’ part as just a brief interlude.
I am afraid Americans in general do not look at Canadians as ‘friends’, they look at us as ‘customers’.
The majority of Americans view Canada as our closest and most trusted ally. Maga fascist are the exception to that rule apparently.
Don’t try to correct them, when someone tells you they hate you, believe them, and start hating them back for it.
If there is a legitimate reason to hate perhaps, but I find it hard to hate someone back when both parties have no reason other than propaganda to hate each other.
Nope. If you hate me, I hate you. Caring why is an unaffordable luxury.
When you have a third party telling you to hate each other I think this breaks down.
Think of someone who has been taught to hate gays realizing there is no reason to.
If you hate me for a made up reason even you don’t understand I will point it out to you. The ruling class has been using hate and division to control us for far too long and I am done with their stupid games.
The ruling class is a problem that needs to be dealt with. I’ve got Canadians saying they’re going to hate me forever. So I now hate Canadians forever. They’re not gonna let that wound heal? neither will I. The bed has been shat, and it wasn’t my asshole that shat it.
Why does this read so much like a conversation between two chatbots? Neither is listening to the other, just responding,
Trump casually joked about absorbing Canada
It was never a joke.
The man doesn’t know how to make a joke.
The closest to humour he gets is when he is punching down, like the bully he has always been.
When I started teaching 35 years ago, I posed the question, “Should Canada join the U. S.” as a writing assignment. Back then, around 50 % were in favour. Over the years, it was nearly a linear descent. When I retired, I would get maybe 1 in a class of 30 that would be for it.
Everyone should hate our government. Our government is letting people die on top of the ones it’s killing. As well those who voted for this…thing.
All of the former allies of the US hates the US now. With good reason.
Also Russia loves the US now. With good reason.
All rushed to express how proud they was that they help killing inocent civilians in Afghanistan. They welcomed the surrender plan for Palestinians. They welcomed marco rubio deranged speech in Munnich
I hated it since the Iraq war.
It sucks that you guys don’t have a bigger military than the US because I would LOVE if we became a Canadian province.
Can you guys at least scoop up the great lakes states? Minnesota, Michigan, and Illinois, please. Wisconsin has great cheese so you might like them, too
I would LOVE if we became a Canadian province.
I honestly don’t think most Americans would adapt to Canadian culture. Most states have very liberal cities that might adapt, but go 60 minutes out of a city and its a stupid, gun fucking, jesus loving freak show. Even Alberta isn’t this bad.
Yes, bad idea. I have two neighbors who moved from US and they brought the stupid with them. Move to Canada then put PPC signs on your yard, fuck right off.
That’s a bit too hyperbolic. I live in a Chicago suburbs and I’d have to travel 2 more hours to find a gun but city. They’re not as common as the media would have you believe.
Of the states I listed, Wisconsin is worst in that regard. Parts of Michigan are the same but the gun culture there is more about hunting (for food, not purely for entertainment)
Wisconsin isn’t going to like Canadian liquor laws
It’s not “kinda hate”.
It warms me up a little to see at least a plurality of Canadian Conservatives recognize the harms Trump is doing to Canada, the USA and the world. It confirms that most don’t have their heads stuck in the sand or are a stooge like Jivani.
I’m mildly peeved at the great Satan, the United $nakes of AmeriKKKa
better late than never. welcome to the club!
