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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
Word of warning, if you are squeemish, Charlie Kirk got shot, and closeup videos of him getting shot are over social media and people have not put warnings up. Managed to avoid it myself, but careful with autoplaying gifs, and use this link https://bsky.app/profile/nycsouthpaw.bsky.social/post/3lyiw3vi3yc2c for instructions how to turn that off.
E: and it was a groyper, stop your bets ladies and gentlebots. The winner of the bet is, acausalrobotgod! Again! What a predictive streak.
Donāt worry, Kelsey Piper managed to use it as an opportunity to be a bluecheck dipshit.
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Why donāt you tell us what those are Kelsey
If Piper ever starts to publish essays on what goals and policy positions she thinks make her or SlateScott āsincere centre-leftistsā they are going to be a trip. Just the explanation why she feels more comfortable saying what she believes under Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Big Balls than under Bidenās centrist technocrats would require a few doses of my favourite substance to get through.
Edit: I would also love to hear āso you agree that the talking head on Fox News who suggested executing the homeless is despicable, what about your friend Scott Alexander proposing to sterilize the poor and substance users before they receive help?ā
Iām at least enjoying the many comments calling her out, but damn she just doubles down even after being given many many examples of him being a far-right nationalist monster who engaged in attempts to outright subvert democracy.
Yeah and missing the point that a lot of people think āsome ideas are so shit they shouldnāt be debated the right wayā esp not ideas about others who are not you and stuff we have debated (and fought over) again and again already. It is like the IRA, Kirk needs to be lucky once, trans people/minorities/university professors(*) need to be lucky every time, again and again, forever. This is just the dumbest level of object level vs meta level thinking out there. When somebody enters the marketplace with sawdust they claim is flour every week you toss them out, donāt let them in next time. And you should notice they only try to sell this āflourā to the poor.
*: my second point, Piper is also very full of shit here. You know what happened to uni professors who debated/corrected/were women/poc in his space? They got put on the TPUSA watchlist and got death and rape threats. He was part of the organisation who ran that database. So this imagined idealized platonic Kirk shaped object isnāt even real. Hell you can see in debates the tricks he pulls so his side thinks he wins. That creepy smile he makes after a point that he knows is bullshit, that is to knock people off balance so people react oddly (as it is a really creepy smile) and donāt react to the dumb shit he just said. See this clip for example: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Jrsy1aB6OSk (it cuts off before she talks about how creepy his smile is). Note he is lying about the fetus thing, and if this wasnāt a high stress debate and people got time to think about things they would just reply with āso a dolphin fetus is a dolphin little human being?ā. But that is professional debaters vs college students for you. This is not a man who was interested in truth or having his mind changed. And this smile is not some incident, he does it in other places.
Itās also yet another case of privileged people somehow failing to understand that there is no ārightā way to advocate for tearing families apart or purging people who donāt fit your ideal. Like, Iām not a fan of political violence but Iām also not going to act like this asshole was any less part of the problem because he ostensibly believed in respecting the stateās monopoly on violence as he advocated for that violence to be used against me and mine.
looks like weāve got us our own superpredictor
Thoughts and prayers, definitely no curses.
I have spend the last few hours looking through all my social media posts making sure I delete any bad things I have said about witches.
The covens appreciate the overture.
Hecate left no crumbs
Irrationally annoyed at yanks incorrecting each other how this kind of shot could only be pulled off by a trained expert sniper. The Behind the Bastards guy agrees, but the replies are still stuffed with examples.
I know from experience that even mediocre conscripts shooting a gun for the first time in their life usually manage to land hits in a one foot diameter circle from 150 metres with iron sights on an intermediate catridge rifle. It doesnāt take an elite marksman to hit a sitting man from 200 yards away, especially with a scope. Even if nervous and high on adrenaline, an average hunter, target shooter or (ex) military type would be more likely than not to hit a target of that size at that distance, assuming otherwise decent conditions.
Hell, the factory sights on an M16 are supposed to be set for zero elevation at 250 metres and the effective range for most assault rifles and their semi auto civilian variants is around 300 metres. To say you need to be a trained sniper to make this shot is like saying you need to be a professional racing driver to do 80 mph on a highway.
If thereās one thing youād assume seppos know well, itās shooting firearms, but some people still canāt help but spout dumb bullshit.
āOne of our guys was murdered; it could have only been an elite Navy SEAL with over 300 confirmed kills!!!ā them, probably
Yeah, I think the whole āquickly getting away without leaving a traceā is more sign of some training. But, this is reduced in being likely by the whole FBI just being filled with incompetent goons, podcasters, racists, who are now playing āfind the person of colorā and not doing the actual FBI things.
I mean I have no high opinion of groypers, so I donāt think they are well trained soldiers or something so take that into account. Exmil just has a higher willingness to kill people.
But yes, very good to point out thanks. Esp as Evans has experience in these things, and can generally be relied upon. (Apart from his views on 40k being too rosy).
We can prob rule out a Luigi style killer as there was no shellcasing with words on it found as far as I can tell.
Even in Luigiās case, it took days to catch a guy who (allegedly, lol) killed a billionaire in the middle of Manhattan. Though very dashing, Mangione hardly seems like a navyseal elite supersoldier ninja hitman 47 either. Whatever Kirkās killerās motive, I see little reason to assume it was necessarily a pro job. All this tells us is that overfunding and militarization doesnāt equate to a more competent police force.
Yeah, and he had motive because of his intense pain, still a weird Rationalist adjacent type guy was not a likely subject. And sadly we knew the latter already.
It has been long long ago, but I recall that when London put CCTVs everywhere the chief of police there admitted it had not caused a drop in crime not helped them catch criminals. But he still wanted to place more of them and more money. Just a strange sort of welfare project for pervert police people.
E: and look all that police power, and he gets caught be cause he admitted it to his dad.
also, I was at Bible study with Luigi at the time a CEO coincidentally had a bullet-involved collision, as were you
During the lead of usual speed incident?
Yep we were, we were talking about hiring jetskis. Strange how they never used the pictures of him on the jetski in the news like how they do with all the white guys who shoot up a place. Wait, that means they know he was innocent just like we do.
Reports are shell cases with messages have been found. My money is still on it being a false flag.
LOL ofc I spoke too soon, the āmessagesā were apparently random arrows
Iām hearing that the āmessagesā are mundane manufacturer markings misinterpreted
E: skeet discourse
Fyi that manufacturer does not make 30 06 ammo. So it isnt true. Story goes that the source for the whole messages story is Crowder, that he dropped it before the mainstream news. Not a reliable source, wtf media.
E: turns out I was wrong sorry about that. But due to the casings we now know he was likely enough to be a groyper for me to call him one. Iāll update the first post with a link to my skeet about it. But the song he used was in a āgroyper warā playlist. The song didnāt make sense to me anyway.
crowder just mad that the title on the tent was āprove me wrongā and not āchange my mindā
I know it is not accurate, but some liberty has been taken with the statements.
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An text image in the style of a Dark Souls death message. The red text on a black background says āmind changedā in all caps
Yeah, to me the whole finding of casings makes no sense. Like if you put a message on them, leave them there. (also bolt your gun if you might want to shoot it again). Just odd. Also odd they donāt mention the messages on them directly. Which normally get plastered all over social media. (Which is bad btw, donāt spread extremist messaging without context, I really hope they finally learned this, and this isnāt a case of them hiding the message to make it sound more extreme than it was).
But yes, I spoke too soon. Anyway, as Iām the negative Cassandra, let me say this. We can rule out it being a Rationalist, we have not found a copy of HPMOR on the scene as far as I can tell.
E: update on the writing, might be wrong
Even if we had the shooter may have just been looking for something heavy enough to brace against for the shot. You canāt exactly carry a set of encyclopedias up to the top of the book depository or wherever without attracting attention.
Not sure about that, I donāt want to talk about specifics as I rather not have people know exactly where I live but you could do a lot on the roofs of our uni without people noticing. Doors were not even locked.
But it makes sense for a shooter to bring something they know the hight off, like their personally signed copy of HPMOR.
JFC if he dies heās the new Horst Wessel
According to this https://bsky.app/profile/esqueer.net/post/3lyj2o4cuvc2g , and I think a fox news news report he is dead.
He was shot while he was trying to blame gun violence on trans people and gang violence basically. In a moment of weird poetry.
But I just posted this here to warn people. A tip if you see something traumatic: https://bsky.app/profile/baroness.bsky.social/post/3lyj32qx2os2f go play some videogames to not sear it into your mind.
Anyway, doubt they will make the diaper guy the new Horst Wessel.
E: a awful.systems relevant lol: https://bsky.app/profile/lasergiant.bsky.social/post/3lyixmkzfuc2r
he also said that kids should watch public executions https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-death-penalty-public-executions-1873073 and was shot directly under giant banner that reads āPROVE ME WRONGā
technically itās a school shooting so not sure why conservatives care at all about it. he died like he lived, moving goalposts
Yep, he sucked. Big question I have is why. He is a propagandist in the āfree speech on campusā wars, and they won the battle and unis are caving and banning free speech. Of all the targets he makes no sense to me (not that any of them do to me, assassination has a very poor track record, people still whine about Pim in the Netherlands, and pretend all violence comes from the left (despite reality proving otherwise)).
So considering his history with groypers, who got big partially attacking Kirk for not being extreme enough, wouldnāt be shocked if it is a groyper. Or an exmil who lost a kid in a shooting.
I mean why shoot the guy that looks like a budget steven crowder and a broken stretchy arms toy doll had a teleporter accident.
Imagine if it turns out that it wasnāt even politically motivated and he just owed a bunch of money or something.
i didnāt even thought he was relevant anymore since 2020, he was like 2017 era chud debatelord who relied entirely on gotchas. he did toe the party line tho, so maybe some divergent rightwinger didnāt like what he was doing for whatever reason. maybe it was situation like with trump shooter, probable republican that didnāt particularly like epstein link, or whatever else cause there might be involved
I donāt think he has been relevant, he was on some 1 X debates 20 !X shows, where he showed the creepiest smile after being wrong about latin, and that was it. For the relevance of things I heard about him.
Turns out he was relevant to the right whoever. As he apparently kept pushing the epstein link (I thought he was dismissing the epstein link) so much so that Laura Loomer decided she never wanted to hear from the guy a few days ago.
Just very weird from what I can tell of the people of his ilk, for too online leftwingers he was a joke. Compared to a shapiro/crowder.
huh i honestly had no idea, and i guessed he was very replaceable in rw propaganda machine. i heard somewhere that shapiro was also supposed to be there
Weāre already seeing some of the less circumspect fash call this their Reichstag Fire.
The videoās also all over Twitter, thanks to nonexistent moderation.