What did you expect from a government where the Chancelor (Friedrich “Fotzenfritz” Merz) has lower aproval rating than Trump
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So a modern car in the EU bongs at me as soon as I stray over the speed limit by 1 kph, but Teslas assisted driving is allowed to exceed the speed limit by 10%?
Why are you getting notified of speeding, turn it off if you want.
This rule is stupid.
You can’t permanently, just for the current drive
I have a new car in europe and it has never done that.
What car do you have?
Kia
Every car registered for the road in the EU after July 7 2024 has to have the warning system. Only cars which were registered in the EU before that date are allowed to not have the system.
Don’t know what to tell you, it is registered on 2025. Brand new. I have never experienced that. The tucson I tried had it but it was able to be changed in the sttings.
I am in favour of safety rules progressing but the EU has made me want to buy an old car and convert to electric. The new driver cameras is a no no for me.
The same statement revealed that the ministry and Tesla had agreed in September that the system may exceed the speed limit “slightly”, by up to 10%, and that Germany would support this approach in the EU approval process.
The headline makes this sound batshit insane, if you read the article is just annoying. Maximal 10% over is pretty much what the majority of drivers on the road are doing and which is seemingly not fined by police.
For some reason, which I heavily disagree with but starting a discussion in a German forum about it will get you some heated responses, every driver in Germany sees it as their god-given right to look at a speed limit at a default “must be 10% faster than that”.
So if you now allow a car to automatically accelerate and brake but actually ask it to stick to speed limits in Germany, there’d be a ton of people pissed they are stuck behind a stupid robo car, which is actually just observing the real speed limit.
Idiotic choice, but with how it works on German streets it does make sense.
Maximal 10% over is pretty much what the majority of drivers on the road are doing and which is seemingly not fined by police.
This was originally done to account for measuring errors in speed cameras, even though modern systems are much more accurate than those of the old days. Defaulting to only a smidge more than 10% above speed limit will get you fined in Germany, so it’s not the smartest strategy.
Errors in speed cameras and your own car’s speed measurements. It could be that your own car could be poorly tuned and give a small error, so you could claim in court that you legitimately were not aware you were speeding. But with a 10% offset that defense doesn’t hold.
Thanks. Yes, I forgot the other potentially inaccurate component in the equation.
Seemingly not fined
I don’t know where you live exactly, but in the North, the OAmt is more than eager to put speed cams in places, where people do in their automatism at most +10%, but seldomly in actual danger zones.
Don’t get me wrong, this decision is batshit crazy and I do want a real fix ( e.g. just do the fines like in the rest of Europe? Germans are notoriously at snails-pace in Austria and Italy, because of that ;D )
Does most of Europe give out fines for going a little bit over the speed limit? I know here in Estonia they rarely bother. Cameras are 3% margin of error only, but there aren’t that many of those and between speedometer error and camera margin, you might be able to go 10% over as far as the car it’s concerned
100% true. If i drive in the city with tempomat at 50… it’s just a matter of time till the following car rams me in the back, they think if they close to 5 cm distance i will drive faster or something
That’s usually when I drop to 45
No it does not because they should all obey the limit. Cream pie argument. I know about the “culture” and it’s just rotten
You won’t hear me disagree with that.
In 1938, the majority of Germans were voting on Nazis.
So I really do not care about what the majority are doing. It should obey the speed limit just like everyone else should.
Self driving should be better than humans, not the same.
Godwin’s Law Speedrun Any%
The nazis have literally nothing to do with this, other than the goober running tesla.
I mean Germany is the home of Audi, BMW, and Mercedes. It makes sense they don’t care much about the speed limits
What the hell Germany?
The not so funny thing about this: Modern cars know what the speed limit is. They have GPS, maps and cameras checking for signs. They are also connected to the internet and know, of course, how fast they are going. So we could totally prevent drivers from speeding or send them automatic fines if they do.
Yeeeah, thats great, except that, there’s at least two spots I know of near me, where my car is of the opinion that the speed limit instantly changes from 120 (the actual speed limit) to 50 (the limit on a parallel side road that no longer exists, but is still on the map).
When cruise control is on, my car adjusts the set speed to the limit. Which means, in both of those spots, it will hit the brakes, hard, with no warning. This has stopped me from wanting to use its cruise control ever again.
Not to mention there are other places, where it decides the limit is higher than the signs say. This sort of tech is a cool idea, but it’s still at a point where “totally prevent drivers from speeding” would just cause a bunch of accidents.
Oh no, it does what literally every other driver on the planet does daily, we’re all going to die!!!
