“Donald, if you’re watching, we’ll put your name on it. You get to be the American president who finally guaranteed health care for every single American.”
Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, the Democratic Senator-elect from Michigan who ran on a progressive platform with Medicare for All at its center, said Friday that he doesn’t care what the policy is called so long as it passes, even during Donald Trump’s lame duck term, which will begin in January.
Appearing on Zeteo with editor-in-chief Mehdi Hasan, El-Sayed was asked if he agreed with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who a night earlier pronounced that he wasn’t so sure that if Democratic majorities in the US House and Senate passed a Medicare for All Bill that Trump wouldn’t sign it.
“If he wants to pass Trumpcare-for-All, I’m ok with it. He seems to like to put his name on things,” said El-Sayed.
I’ve heard others talk like this. There’s hope that Trump is so desperate to save some portion of his legacy, that he’ll sign whatever the Dems send him, so he can take credit.
But there’s something else that matters more: Prison. He can sign all sorts of great legislation, but he’s STILL going to prison, and THAT’S what he’ll be remembered for most.
Besides, he has PeeWee Himmler acting as his Wormtail, whispering poison into the demented king’s ear. He’ll never allow Trump to sign healthcare regulation that would save thousands of lives, especially those who can’t afford healthcare.
He’s never going to prison. You are living in a fantasy dream.
Genius. He knows how to work his audience.
genius
I wouldn’t even feel bad calling it Trump Care if they call it that and he signs it.
It would redefine his legacy.
Right now, he’s set to go down in history for dividing the nation, being twice impeached, having 34 felonies, weaponizing cruelty as policy, and egomania.
Passing Medicare For All as “Trump-Care” would change the conversation to, “Sure, he divided the nation, was twice impeached, was a convicted felon, weaponized cruelty as a matter of policy, and was an egomaniac, but we have him to thank for finally getting us universal healthcare.”
It’s really a no-brainer.
Without the Civil Rights Act of 1965, LBJ would have just been the guy who helped introduce oil money into national politics, literally stole his way into the senate, lucked into becoming President, and ramped up the Vietnam War. So there is a precedent.
Don’t forget the penis! That’s mostly what I know of him.
We’d just be omitting the implied “Doesn’t” from the middle.
Honestly it would be a massive troll and I’m all for it
It’s not like we’re not all going to call it HabibiCare anyway
I’m down
Tricking republicans into being decent people is fine with me. It’s like when you trick your cat into taking their medicine. Your cat thinks they’re getting a free treat, and you no longer have to deal with them shitting all over the walls.
It’s kinda funny how appropriate this analogy is.
He’s so easy to manipulate. Just make him think it’s his idea, slap his name on it, and let him sign yet another bill he didn’t read with cameras flashing and people calling him ‘sir’. Boom, socialism.
Don’t forget the gold. “Award” him with some golden crap and he won’t even look at what he’s signing.
Just have Mamdani go and lobby Trump for it. Trump has such a man-crush on him. It might lead to some uncomfortable comments about Mamdani’s ass, but I’m sure Z would take those for the cause…
Seems to have a little chub for El-Sayed too!
Maybe throw in a peace prize or two to sweaten the deal.
Medicare peace prize
Yup it’s really easy to manipulate a Narcissist. All you gotta do is stroke their ego and they’ll eat right out of your hand. Tell them how wise and strong and powerful they are. That’s what Mamdani did.
Honestly this is so true. There’s a real chance we could have universal healthcare (aka trumpcare)
The only way to use it will be to have a physical ID card that also has Trump’s photo plastered on it.
They can call it whatever the fuck they want.
Ideally it covers everyone for everything your doctor seems medically necessary. But I’ll take whatever stepping stone we can get.
Sure why not. We can always rename it later.
Noone would call it Trump care the day after 🤣 it’ll just be Medicare for all
No-one wants to be associated with the orange pedo
The Affordable Care Act is still called Obamacare
People don’t mind being associated with Obama.
I’d call it TrumpCare. So what? I’d just be glad to have it. TrumpCare would be easier/quicker to say than Medicare For All, too.
Yes, the name is irrelevant.
Whatever it’s called you’ll be amazed by how few times you ever have to say it once you have it.
The only times I’ve had to use a word for the “universal healthcare” that we have (which doesn’t have a name) is when trying to describe it to people who don’t have it already. Everyone in the world except America will understand “healthcare” in this way to begin with. If you really need to explain something that is not, you’d explicitly use “private healthcare” or “insurance” for anything else.
It would be funny though if it was named after his wife: ‘“I don’t really care, do you?”- care"’
Your name will be torn off everything after you are out of power, everybody hates you, and your supporters will pretend they weren’t. You are the devil, but not really because you are so fucking stupid.
The big beautiful obituary is coming! Old man time has his hands around this bitch’s throat.
His pragmatism is stunning and brave and very welcome! This is how you get shit done, fuck the go-high-when-they-go-low bullcrap
If we need their participation because they hold the Presidential fucking Veto and remain influential among a still way too high demographic that its better or free to have buy-in with , you work with them to help them come around to what you need to get done, especially when they can be bought so cheaply that all it takes is temporarily stamping their name on it or holding up on the raining down of criminal investigations and legal reckoning to ensure they let thru and that they would just pardon themselves from immediately anyhow.
Those largely performative things can wait, universal health care and possibly other goodies like banning legislative voter map fraud/disenfranchisement cant wait, shit needs to change and change soon. Remember: Trump isnt actually a “conservative”, he was a registered Democrat for most of his life and he’s shown he cares far more about flashy branding and photo ops and superficially being liked, consulted with, presenting the finished product he practically had zero to do with but that can benefit from his cultural and branding bona fides.
Sure Putin’s probably got some shit on him but it seems like thats largely at a stalemate where if he pushes the guy any further Trump might just say fuck it and unleash the coveted systems Ukraine wants and terminally successful sanctions that could actually finish the war in record time and decimate Russkies and even Putin. He could be the newly empowered Dem’s own higher controlled Opposition in Name Only President who actually fucks over his own Party for a chance at hitching his boat to the rising Dems and actually get all the cool shit everyone would have thought impossible.
Its gonna be pretty hard for the remaining parasitic DINOs to contain the damage when fucking Trump is already prematurely announcing working with DSA to deliver the goods America actually needs (by doing nothing more than shuttig up the traitors by advertising it and ultimatey just signing it)
Just goes to show how insidious all the paid-for fuckhead AIPC+insiders+centrists were and how cynical they were in telegraphing their fear mongering about gasp a “socialist” [insert left and right wing boogie men which are often diametrically contradictory.
The damage done to the completely fucked Overton window and loss of faith in the electoral system and the despair its caused by hijacking the peoples vote so it didnt matter which party it went to but bipartisanly never went towards policies that could help them, only to the interests of the “donor” class (who,lets be real, are nothing but political bribery and pay to play access gone rampant) is aggregately incalcuable and it needs to be mitigated and all its upholders need to be unelectable after they finish their current terms and neutered before they have even have an iota of a chance to capitalize on the current blue wave their DSA betters largely made happen for the party.
DSA holds the promise of a left Tea Party but the actual better Angels inherent to our “side” that is the counterpart to the Demons comprising the Republicans’/Tea Party wing (which is almost the entire party at this point in the same way the Dems were largely corporate/DINOs prior to independants loosely associated like Bernie and DSA)
While people in Israel have healthcare for all.
And highly subsidized (not free, but incredibly cheap) higher education.
Imagine that, Americans: free healthcare and no real student debt. We’ve never had anything close, but we’ve paid for Israel to have it all along.
They’re pretty good at healthending too
And we pay for that too
Apparently wats good enuff for gander (Schumer and Israel) is too good for Goose (US populace).
Americans wouldnt understand universal healthcare, it would anger and confuse them ⸮
—Schumer and crntrist/corporate Dems, probably
When Hakeem Jeffries says stuff like this it’s terrifying because he’s a scumbag corporate sell-out, but when Dr. Abdul says it I’m on board and can’t wait to see what he comes up with, because he actually seems like a good dude we can trust to negotiate for us instead of corporate paymasters
Hakeem doesn’t say stuff like this and that’s why he needs to go.
Hakeem will describe vague notions of problems to be fixed with ultimate solutions that end up being “give health insurers more money”.
Abdul is proposing the policy, medicare for all, and saying “but call it whatever you want”. Hakeem will identify a problem, but ultimately will push dogshit policies that aren’t popular.
That’s part of why he’s so much better.
Hakeem will describe vague notions of problems to be fixed with ultimate solutions that end up being “give health insurers more money”.
Let’s look at what Jeffries has said about healthcare in this country!
- “we’ve established working groups [on] […] healthcare”
- “We’re going to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits”
- “we’re going to lower costs and we’re going to save healthcare”
This shit means exactly what it does when he says we need to “reform ICE”. Incremental improvements, no actual solution to the underlying problem.
The thing it works 1000x better with an El-Sayed or Mamdani, because they’re actually cool.
trump openly complains about how everyone around him are losers, and those are the people he picks to spend all his time with.
Throw someone with even average charisma in that room, trump loves them. Jeffries/Schumer fucking suck, trump won’t want to deal with them. He can’t get enough of Mamdani, and El-Sayed will be the same.
trump legitimately wants to be loved, he’s just a shitty person who doesn’t know how to get it and like a toddler he’d rather have hate than nothing. Any attention is better than none
There’s a difference between somefish who swims off-course get to where they need to go, and somefish who swims off-course to go somewhere else.
Funny how trust works, isn’t it?
Don’t tell them that the newly elected Dems are outnumbered by incumbents who voted for Jeffries may times.
The best part of it is, it would still have a real name like “Obamacare” is officially “Affordable Care Act”.
Absolutely zero reason to ever use “trumpcare” once it passed
I seem to recall that the term Obamacare was originally used by conservatives pejoratively, to make it less appealing to other conservatives.
Do you think that he wouldn’t make ‘TrumpCare’ the legal, officially mandated name? With his portrait as the watermark on every ID card?
He should. Just to rub it in the face of every president, democrat and republican, who came before him and absolutely could not accomplish this vital and extremely pragmatic policy.
“This is the clown that did what you could not.”
Could always rename it after he’s out. Germany had so many nazi street names. Names long gone n forgotten but streets still there right?
Oh, no! That could never, ever, ever happen!
He’s a very popular man and respected by all.
Nope, never happen. No. No. NO!!!
Shhh. Don’t tell him that.
Most of the responses to you really miss the point.
ACA was called Obamacare to prey on certain people’s dislike of Obama. So many people loved the ACA and didn’t realize they were on “Obamacare”
Even before Trump was elected, the joke was than anything Obama said would be disagreed with. That’s been a joke since maybe 2008. Before he was even in office.
The real point is that if you told Trump he could call it Trumpcare he would agree with whatever you wanted. That’s been a joke since Trump started being involved around 2016.
It is sad how much ideology has to crap on the futures of the vulnerable. I’m glad El-Sayed is pushing for the things that many countries already give their population. Not everything has to be a profit race to the bottom
I dont care if they name it “trump is better than obama care” if it gets his stupid ass to sign it.
