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    I’ll probably just keep using Heroic because it unifies libraries. If it ever becomes possible to bring in the steam library as well, it’d be great.

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    This is good news.

    I’m really hoping that Valve will end up being a better stewart of the PC ecosystem than Microsoft in the long run.

    Sometimes, It does really feel like the PC ecosystem can wither and die without them. I know we’re all enthusiasts here but I need to remind myself that we really do benefit from the larger ecosystem of PC owners. Without that demand being present, personal computers would really be for a few choice people and not all of us.

    If the larger ecosystem collapses under the weight of one company (like Microsoft or valve) then there are bigger problems to solve like supply chain, trust, and support that no free and open source project will be able to handle. Not because it’s free and open source, but because the problems are just really really big and they take a lot of money to fix.

    More people working on these problems is a good thing. I’m happy to see so much more happening on Linux regardless of my preferences.

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      I think the greatest strength valve has is being privately owned, rather than having to answer to investors. Combined with them genuinely appearing to care about the state of gaming, it’s a big thing. Especially with their contributions to open source and Linux gaming.

      Microsoft and such are all about the money, quality assurance has quietly been abandoned over the years.

      Here’s hoping we aren’t disappointed years from now.

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      I’m really hoping that Valve will end up being a better stewart of the PC ecosystem than Microsoft in the long run.

      Outside companies can’t really contribute to Windows development and have no say, so it’s 100% up to Microsoft to look after the Windows ecosystem.

      On Linux however, Steam can contribute to the kernel and both audio and graphics systems. All this apart from delivering their Steam service. The same will be the case for GOG, although they probably can’t afford much, and the same will be true for Epic if they want.

      Linux has mainly been held up by server development on the professional side, and desktops have been mostly been an afterthought among the ones with the money. Even Linus Torvalds does not use Linux as his personal computer. So most of the Linux desktop was developed by personal private interests with help from Red Hat.
      But despite that Linux desktop is pretty damned awesome today with strong alternatives to Gnome. 😀

      It can never be the responsibility of Valve alone to keep the Linux desktop alive and thriving, they are merely part of it, and they have been a great boon for Linux, like Red Hat used to be who developed most of the GTK graphics back end, Gnome desktop, Pulse Audio and systemd.

      Linux desktop is a very very different ecosystem than Windows, in the way it works, kind of like how Eric Raymond tried to describe in his book The Cathedral and the Bazaar. Unfortunately he failed, and the book and ended out as mostly nonsense, but the book is famous anyway, because it does try to describe the gist of it.

      Sometimes, It does really feel like the PC ecosystem can wither and die

      The traditional PC is dying, no doubt about it. PC used to be a universal tool for everybody, it isn’t anymore, many people have scrapped their PC, and now just use their phones and sometimes also tablets. The PC is a special interest tool today, and as such it will survive, but at a smaller scale than it used to be on. But as a special tool, it will also keep developing for those special “needs” like gaming, and the PC remains way ahead of any other form of game system in almost every way.

      Edit:
      Linus Torvalds does indeed use Linux desktop today, he Apparently uses Fedora.
      But for many years he didn’t.

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        Linus Torvalds does not use Linux as his personal computer.

        Yes he does. I would imagine the same one he built on camera in 2025 for his desktop. He has been seen with mac laptops, but they had ashahi linux on them.

        Edit: I should add around 2011-2015 he did daily drive a mac, so a long time ago.

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          around 2011-2015 he did daily drive a mac,

          That’s what I knew, I never heard he changed to actually using Linux, last I heard he said the Linux desktop isn’t good enough for daily use.
          I’m glad if he actually uses Linux desktop now. 😀

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        I thought Linus used Fedora and that systemd was made by Poettering as a personal project unrelated to his work at Red Hat.

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          I’m pretty sure Red Hat financed it, although it was a pet project of his.
          Last I heard Linus was using a MAC.

          Edit:
          Apparently Linus does use Fedora now.

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    For those of you who were able to switch to Steam, I understand why this isn’t very interesting for you, but GOG has a huge library of very old games that Steam does not have, so this is still a pretty big deal, even if it took a really long time.

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      For me if the GOG client can’t offer better support than Lutris I don’t see a reason to use it over Lutris. Not going to lie, the bar is kinda low as I don’t particularly love Lutris but the bar is there for the GOG launcher.

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        If they manage to implement a working pause an resume function for downloads, I am in.
        Spent the day trying to download Indiana Jones’ 120 GB of madness. Lutris crashed after 5 Gb, because I dared to move a window. Heroic showed me a pause button, but after I pressed resume it forgot about the 8 GB already downloaded and started at 0% again. I ended up using aria to fetch the offline install files directly, sitting at 110 GB at the moment. Hope the install goes smoother.

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      You’re assuming those will work on GoG, that might not be the case unless they do something like Proton, otherwise those old games are Windows/DOS only and so you would have to manually download the binaries and run then through wine or something, so Galaxy coming to Linux wouldn’t affect this.

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        Lutris & Heroic already install all windows GOG games into Wine +/- Proton prefixes using some simple automation. The bar for an official GOG launcher to achieve the same isn’t that high if they want to go down that route. Proton is freely available and open source, so GOG can use it too if they want (and would be sensible to do so).

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        All of those old games just run through wine or dosbox. They install just fine through GoG Galaxy. GoG Galaxy has been on macOS for years.

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    Good to know, and hopefully I step in the right direction, but for me it’s too little too late, since I first requested GoG to port their stuff to Linux, Valve has:

    • Released a client for Linux
    • Ported their games to Linux
    • Created a standardized target for Linux
    • Financed Wine and dxvk development
    • Released and maintained Proton
    • Released Linux based platforms multiple times

    And in short has spent lots to increase Linux adoption. I might install it and check out some old games that might not be available on Steam if they have an easy way to run them like Proton. But I have since spent thousands on Steam, not to mention I mostly use Steam as my main UI on most of my gaming systems.

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      Difference is, Gog has the moral high ground so to speak. In Steam you don’t own shit - sure, there are convoluted ways to download the installer archives, but it’s a joke compared to GOG.

      Other than that, I agree with everything you said.

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        I feel like this and DRM are the two things people point out as GoG’s benefits, but first of all GoG also sells you a license, so it’s EXACTLY the same as Steam. The “difference” is in the other point, because without DRM games bought on GoG can be backed up and installed again without needing GoGs approval, but this ignores two HUGE caveats:

        • GoG also allows DRM on their store, with some games having DRM for DLCs or extra content.
        • Steam doesn’t require DRM, so all games that are DRM free on GoG are most likely also DRM free on Steam.

        All in all this means that in regards to ownership morally GoG is essentially the same as Valve, they just have better PR about it.

        PS: To give credit where it’s due, GoG is a lot more restrictive with what DRM it allows, and you can expect most of the game you bought to be playable without DRM there. However I feel that allowing me to play on my libre OS is a lot more morally significant than the difference between those two DRM stances.

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    For me its a bit too late, because I’m full on Steam now. But even if I wanted to, there is no payment option I accept for purchasing on GOG. If there was a way to pay with PaySafeCard or with some sort of GOG Gift Card, then I would rethink about this. With Steam getting rid of Gift Cards (but still allow PaySafeCard as an option), this could be a real reason to buy from GOG to me. Even Epic Games has this option. I don’t want to buy from Epic in the future, so GOG do something! It’s all a service problem, not a question of money.

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      i don’t understand how a linux user can have the mindset of “well there is already X, why new alternative”. having alternatives is like, our whole thing

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        Reason is simple. They could have done that years ago, instead they pushed against it and now Steam has the best and tried Linux support.

        Yes, alternatives are good,but be better as a company.

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          Yes, alternatives are good,but be better as a company.

          Gog became independent of CD Project only fairly recently.

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        I don’t fully understand the why. No GOG sells games without DRM, that’s it’s whole selling point. Why have a launcher (other than maybe for installing)?

        Anyway. Speaking of GOG I’m more excited for Physical games

        Although I don’t think I would actually utilize it.

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          It can be a pain in the ass keeping something updated with the manual installers, especially if you don’t install them in your home directory (the default).

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        It’s the reason why Linux is the way it is. If we just succumbed to whatever Linus Torvalds wanted to do, Linux as we know it would fall completely to AI. But, that isn’t the reality we have to face, we have plenty of Linux variations out there so that we do not have to just deal with one sole Linux distro.

        When the Ubuntu developers disappointed the fanbase, we had options. Lately when Linus Torvalds announced AI, we have options.

        That’s the beauty of it all.

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      No one cares anymore with Lutris and Heroic providing open source implementations.

      Lutris follows the horrible Gnome design HIG and Heroic is an Electron web app that always selects weird UI elements by default when using it with a game pad (it’s clearly an afterthought).

      If GOG Galaxy happens to just work under SteamOS Game Mode, it’s a massive improvement in my book.

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        Heroic is an Electron web app that always selects weird UI elements

        And like all Electron apps, it’s a resource hog.

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        Man, I actually like the way Gnome apps look and feel.

        I hate Gnome login manager, writing gnome apps, the empty gnome menu bar, app switcher, the way the dock is implemented, the screen switcher, and a few other things.

        But the apps plus icons actually using screen real estate correctly is so much better than KDE’s interface implementations.

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      I kind of agree, except for one big difference: cloud save sync. Currently, Heroic et al can sync game saves for Windows GOG games, but for Linux-native games (or Linux builds of multiplatform games), that’s not possible. GOG would have to support Linux cloud saves on the server side.

      (For me this is Silksong.)

      When they officially have Galaxy for Linux, they will finally have a reason to implement it. And at that point, presumably, the FOSS launchers will be able to utilize it too.

      Other than that, having the option of an official GOG Galaxy launcher, with smoother GOG integration and active work both on the client and the server to make everything work better, is a good thing no matter how you look at it. Yes it’s late, but it’s definitely not too late.

      I might keep using Heroic. I might switch to this. Time will tell.

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        the move makes sense.I can use my controller natively (Xbox Elite), so it doesn’t bother me personally in any way.

        I guess it’s a good move,let’s hope the competition helps

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      I have yet to be able to get my steam controller to work within heroic. Hopefully it works with gog.

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      No one here cares. My buddies who only started using it via SteamOS I’ve turned to lutris and heroic but the moment this is available for them I know they’ll abandon them for not recognizing them as much as GOG. I hope more will care but those companies unfortunately have that brand recognition people overly suck in

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    I’m figuring one day soon steam will turn to shit and all the money I spent there will be wasted, I’m going to be checking the places that let me actually own a game first.

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    Nice!

    I will check this out, I regret so many Steam purchases that are all locked behind DRM

    (I call out steam because I see this as an actual problem they have on their otherwise very solid customer service record. Other companies are worse)

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    The GOG Galaxy UI is beautiful. This sounds like it would be great for conventional Linux desktop users (or Bazzite) if they’re not using Epic or Amazon games. I’m happy with SteamOS though, and GOG Galaxy would be a hassle since it launches into gaming mode. Like most people, I’ll probably stick to Heroic for the Steam launchers, but more choices are good!