what a time to be alive
This isn’t how I thought we’d get back to the age of in-house engines but I’m elated it’s happening
I hate all these tainted projects.
Verse has some interesting concepts. Shame it’s all vibe coded.
Holy shit. UE5 is already utter dogshit, this can only be exponentially worse.
The market will respond accordingly.
If you haven’t heard of Godot, look into it. Doesn’t have the flash of UE, but it is quite capable and FOSS.
The market will respond accordingly.
By continuing to use it.
if you’re lame and stinky, maybe.
Doesn’t have the flash of UE
I’m guessing (I haven’t used UE) that’s largely because UE adds a lot of graphics effects for the dev by default whereas in Godot you start with more of a blank slate. So something made by an inexperienced dev will look better (and run poorly) in UE.
I don’t remember if they mentioned that explicitly in this vid:
I am probably going to get downvoted, but Godot isn’t a replacement for UE (yet). It can be used if one is a solo dev, or can be used to replace Unity.
I have used Godot and am using UE almost daily, I have also used some assets in the video. 70 FPS for those low poly assets on a tiny map, running on RTX 5080 isn’t good, quite the opposite. I’ll get much better result in UE using the exact same assets. The video doesn’t talk much about UE.
Most assets are made with UE/Unity in mind. So they’ll ‘look good’ if you just import into those engines. Every engine uses a different way of setting up lighting, refelctions, shadows. If I directly import a UE asset into Godot, it will look bad because I have to setup lighting for it.
Someone made a comparison of reflections in Godot and UE on discord. Reflections look wrong in Godot when you compare that to UE. Godot is getting better, but it’s not quite there yet. In O3DE’s (another foss game engine, but slop) discord, someone vibecoded its renderer Atom, into Godot, and even that slop had better reflections.
Also the reason people use UE is not just good lighting/flash, it’s things like Blueprint, Gameplay Abilities system, accessible facial mocap, GASP, templates and other systems already implemented for you. All of these are not primary focus in a general use engine like Godot/Unity. I need to use a separate plugin for terrain scultping in Godot. I know devs (mostly designers) who use UE just because of the Blueprint visual scripting.
What I don’t get is, there are other small open source engines that have much better ‘defaults’. Maybe it’s the Godot Foundation’s way of having everything done differently. Or maybe they can’t do a breaking change when they are supporting really old hardware too.
I don’t think games made with Godot look bad, quite the oppsite if people look at devlogs or posts shared by devs on socials. It is really great for the PSX style games.
The market will respond accordingly
No it will not. Google is all in on AI slop and everyone still uses Google products. So is Microsoft and majority of people still use their products. There are many more examples too of things that go all in on AI, get predicted to fail, and then nothing happens.
Google is all in on AI slop and everyone still uses Google products.
A lot of people are now recommending DDG for search because Google search has become practically unusable
Yeah its still unfortunately still a smaller search engine but I hope more people eventually switch
That said, UE6 will keep doing the things you want Unreal Engine to do. Rendering will keep getting better. Cook times will come down. Iteration loops will get tighter. Mobile is increasingly capable.
Even the press release is LLM authored, I see.
Chat, how do I words?
Make words go now!
Make it fun!
At this point, I’m just waiting for the day when I’ll try to initiate a conversation with a meat-drone, and instead of asking ChatGPT what opinion they’re supposed to have about what I’m saying to them, they’ll completely surrender the last vestiges of their shredded cognitive capabilities and just hold out their phone so I can chat with their LLM directly and leave them out of it. Probably while drooling a bit.
I’m getting to that point rapidly. I have a friend who feeds FAR too much PII to his favorite jumped up autocorrect… mostly medical. Nothing I’ve said dissuades him from this perilous path. Nor does any idiocy from the likes of Scam Norman.
We might be looking at the latest incarnation of natural selection here. You tried your best to help your friend act in their own best interest and were rebuffed. It’s a shame, but what else is there to do but let it play out?
Absolutely nothing.
The worst part is that he’s very progressive and quite outspoken about it… in a deeply red and rural part of a red state. I can see a number of bad scenarios playing out.
A crying shame that. Well, I suppose the only thing I can do I hope it all turns out for the best for him, despite the odds.
I now see why Tim was so adamant about removing the AI badge on steam. steam should really block slop and let epic take that bullshit, it would be a service to humanity
Just use Godot.
“It’s not the engine’s fault, It’S tHe DeVs”
Unreal has been shit and is only getting worse. No defending it anymore.
I…The actual fuck? The devs did say they would add AI functionality to Unreal Engine 6, but I didn’t realize they would just turn it into an expensive slop generator. 🥴 Love it when corpos engage in the race to the bottom of the filthy profit seeking barrel; it kickstarts good open source peeps to create great and useful software. 😉
For now, to make all this work, Verse runs on a single thread and calls C++ code built via a custom LLVM compiler that automatically transactionalizes the C++ code.
I have many words, and let’s just say none of them good
…single thread
If I had a dime for every time a single threaded process caused a performance issue I’d have enough for a few nice dinners.
It’s 2026, if you can’t effectively multi-thread and learn to parallelize processes i question your effectiveness as a dev. Especially in performance oriented and scalable apps.
Fun fact, someone tried to vibe up something at my work and it totally screwed up threading…
Maybe that’s why epic can’t do multi thread…
It’s 2026, if you can’t effectively multi-thread and learn to parallelize processes i question your effectiveness as a dev.
Especially when you’re architecting an engine targeting AAA development which needs to eek out every spec of performance they can. Like this isn’t them forgetting to use a feature of a language, this is them just not even adding it.
The LLVM also seems like a poor choice. Sure it’ll be fine for many but it’s still adding overhead and will make it harder to optimize that last 5% to nudge into okay performance. Hardware isn’t constantly evolving and being upgraded at the pace it used to.
And actually go look at the syntax of Verse. It’s painful to read, which explains why they’re pushing LLM driven development so they don’t have to see their own monster
It’s for gameplay programming, not engine subsystems. These events must eventually be serialized (in the serializability sense, not marshaling) and handled by a single thread for the net code to work. Basically every engine does this (or risk having unreliable networking). The goal of this (last time I looked was when it was announced) is to make it easier to have distributed networking for multiplayer games.
Also building this using c++ and LLVM will result in better performance than any blueprint system can achieve.
We can hate AI and the direction of the engine but don’t just assume the devs at Epic are dumb.
Wait what? Fucken excuse me?
Unreal Engine is by Epic Games, so wtf was everyone expecting?
Ah they can keep it.
The whole post just stinks of AI generated text too. Couldn’t even write his thoughts down without an AI to rewrite it for him.
Im confused
Where in the post does it say what the title says?
Is it in the video? I cant watch it currently
I haven’t watched this video either, but a creator I follow has said pretty much the same thing. Apparently, there was a keynote leak from Epic where their slides are talking about this.
Are you referring to the suggestion to use AI to migrate old projects?
I was talking about the title. Epic will deprecate C++ and blueprints in favor of a new language that’s created to be used with AI.
Bad journalism on my part, it’s in the video mb. I would fix it but I’m in class
