- cross-posted to:
- techtakes@awful.systems
- cross-posted to:
- techtakes@awful.systems
Fucking traitorous scum
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I’ll take a neutral source to read this, because the headline suggests this article is at the very least over hyping and at worst plain lying
AI imo is good at finding potential issues or places to optimize but it shouldn’t be writing code on the kernel. It’s up to the human to investigate and adjust, not AI slop.
This article seems biased given how emotional it is. It could be entirely factually correct yet still misrepresent the situation. For example, there’s no mention of the patch criteria or review procedure, which is such an important part of fairly covering this topic that omitting it is actively malicious.
I’ll be waiting for fair coverage of the situation from a reputable news source, not a website whose sole purpose is to make AI and its users look bad.
I’ll start with fuck AI, but it does feel like most of the people commenting here only know about coding and AI from stories around a campfire.
A good developer will consider the tools and choose the ones that are beneficial. It’s crazy that people think somebody like Linus will suddenly be useless because of AI.
If you take all of the civilization level atrocities being committed constantly by ai companies and their fascist supporters…eh maybe?
I think
moredevelopers and engineers need to work on their busted ass moral compasses.Software engineer writing code for a living, day in, day out for over a decade. I’m completely self taught and never went to uni, and got my first role at 20, if that means anything. I trust nothing from Claude. We just had a “write no code have claude complete in automode”. Nope. It’s horrible. We even had it write the jira stories. Complete shit.
And yet, from experience as a software dev currently on job hunt because his company is switching mostly only AI developing, that is not what companies are doing and not what a lot of devs seem to be doing. They’ll vibe code and see it as done
In the near future (and I suspect it’s quite sooner than we thought) all those companies’ codebase will turn into mostly slopcode that no one there will have enough knowledge about it. They will eventually hit a timeline where only AI agents could still do a thing about it and that will be a huge crash for them. It’s suppose to be a tool, they act like it’s everything they need. Maybe we’ll even see that their software is changing inconsistently in every major update because they have to vibe-code it from scratch every time.
Well… Guess we’re all fucked now.
Linus Torvalds has been AI curious for a while. He went on Linus Sebastian’s YouTube channel, Linus Tech Tips, in November last year. He was clearly well into the chatbot already: [YouTube]
That’s reality. Deal with it. That genie is out of the bottle. You’re not getting it back. And you’re not getting it back whether you are a photographer who’s out of work. Those things are gone, right? Because you can fake pictures so much better now. Or you’re a programmer that has to learn to deal with a new reality.
I think actually on the programming side, we’re in a fairly good spot. I really think that AI will be a tool and it will make people more productive. I think that vibe coding is great for getting into programming. I think it’s going to be a horrible thing to maintain.
Uhh…
That could be why he also said it’s time to make it harder to get started committing to Linux. As in, no vibe coding newbies wanted, patches will be accepted from people who actually know how the kernel works
I think we have bigger problems in life than judging a person by their own actions. Like sure, go waste your time. But you better invest it into a fork of the kernel. Because you know, you can fork it. Or just not use it. You have the freedom to do whatever you want. Choosing to just insult shows how bitter and frustrated you are.
I think we have bigger problems in life than judging a person by their own actions.
Umm FUUUUUUUUUCK no.
We absolutely do not have bigger problems in life than not holding people accountable for their own actions. The problem is that a literal felon, and pedophile, is not being held accountable for their actions. Not being judged for them. And one of them is pardoning criminal after criminal after criminal
That one person not being judged by their own actions has created most of the problems that are affecting the most amount of people right now as we are arguing on lemmy
What in the Epstein hell are you on about with this.
I’m currently looking into forking the Linux kernel. Worst thing that can happen is that it fails, or I have to change professions.
Only TempleOS is safe now
Praise him*.
*Terry A. Davis
No one should be surprised.
Man’s got a massive ego problem, and has done for years. Of course he’d think his AI code is good.
he’d think his AI code is god.
Give it time.
ITT: Hyperbole
I mean, we’re in the middle of a cold civil war across the world right now, with fascism and puritanism on the STRONG rise. And that’s not hyperbole.
Linus is a traitor to Open Source community. Using and promoting a tool created by stealing the works of thousands of developers, artists etc. He might be a good programmer but he is a fucking douchebag.
Even worse is, that he’s inadequately helping capital, including Microsoft, in stripping the common man of their own computing, to rent it back to them.
The most disappointing aspect of using AI on linux, to me, is that it sort of implies linux is now more comfortable with the “move fast and break things” -mindset, now caring more about “efficiency” and “speed” rather than integrity and quality.
That’s really sad actually, i didn’t think of that.
I only recently installed Linux for the first time on my HTPC last year and it was flawless at first. Last couple months I’ve noticed a handful of bugs and system hangs that never happened before. Anecdotal, I know, but it worries me as a novice. I built my home server on this machine specifically to avoid microslop…
Last couple months I’ve noticed a handful of bugs and system hangs that never happened before.
I get random blackscreens with my OcuLink-connected Radeon GPU on the latest kernels…anecdotal evidence, too, but my slopcode senses are tingling. It worked really well on 6.x kernels last year.
Software will probably get worse, but very slowly. One little stab at a time until it becomes very noticeable.
It’s kind of incredible to me that the dude that started this project would be so quick to allow it to become slopped.
I’m forced to use LLMs at work myself, but even I have projects that I’m unwilling to let them touch, and I’m talking about a personal text editor for fuck’s sake, not something I’ve spent my whole life building and attached my name to.
So many people have become shameless garbage.
I don’t mind it IF the programmer using it does it while understanding what is churned out and how it works, ergo, if he is skilled enough to use his AI only as a tool to save time.
If he has no expertise and the code is completely unverified and uncontrolled, then it’s slop.
