In an interview on Theo Von’s podcast This Past Weekend, Mamdani warned that if the American Dream is just an ideal that’s out of within reach, then people may start to give up.

The democratic socialist compared it to legendary NYC Mayor Fiorello La Guardia’s observation during the rise of fascism in Europe, saying people turned away from democracy not because they were tired of liberty, but because they were tired of being hungry.

“So if democracy doesn’t mean the better life that it has to, it’ll lose its worth. And the same thing with the American Dream: if it’s something you can only see when you turn on your TV or you hear about that one guy you grew up with who made it, that doesn’t mean enough,” Mamdani said.

  • CharlesDarwin1809@piefed.world
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    22 days ago

    He’s right, and people can see he’s right, which is why they voted for him to become mayor of NYC

    Meanwhile Republicans are a bunch of oligarchs who are like “No you can’t vote for socialists because… look at all this culture war stuff! Please keep us in power!”

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      Meanwhile Republicans both major parties are a bunch of oligarchs who are like “No you can’t vote for socialists because… look at all this culture war stuff! Please keep us in power!”

      Fixed it for you. The Dem leadership literally supported the loser of their own primary to avoid Mamdani becoming mayor.

      And then when that didn’t work or mollify their owner donors, they passed an official resolution condemning socialism. They have never passed any such resolution condemning fascism, in spite of that being the ideology of the ACTUAL enemy.

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        Exactly they rather have fascism then socialism. Hell Newsome is trying to create his own blue Maga were he welcome fascist on his podcast.

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        If you vote for that socialist communist then prices will go up and you can’t afford anything! Vote for me!

        *Everything they claimed would happen happened under them and they blamed it all on the others

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    Well, we’re not very democratic anymore. Yeah, yeah…we get to vote for our leadership. “Democratic”. But that leadership is already vetted and chosen by the wealthy with campaign contributions to ensure that an elected candidate will do what the wealthy want with barely a veneer of helping the actual country and citizens that are supposed to be the beneficiaries of the democracy.

    The wealthy fuck everything up.

    Democracy turns to oligarchy, socialism overrun by authoritarianism, liberal revolutions usurped by dictators. All systems fucked up by people consolidating wealth and power.

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    23 days ago

    Nepo babies are taking every opportunity, and the cute name doesn’t change the reality of it.

    When enough people realize it, it won’t matter how “cool” some of them are.

    Generational wealth inequality destroys everything, and it’s going to keep getting worse. Not just because the vast majority gets fucked over, but because the people who get to run shit are chosen because how wealthy their daddy was.

    The masses can keep shit functional for a while, but once that pattern starts you quickly run into the rich idiots at the top causing so much damage the rest can’t keep society moving.

    The wealthy are always the ones directly to blame for violent social upheaval, because they were the only ones with the power to fix it without violence. Their iron grip on their parents stolen wealth means there’s no other option.

    Just a matter of when.

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      Where are the Carnegie types to build public infrastructure? Y’know, improve the lives of the rest of society that gave them enough power to amass such wealth.

      There’s no such thing as a “self-made billionaire”, it’s made off the exploitation of the folks below. Everyone has a great idea or two, but getting lucky isn’t just being “God’s chosen one” (or whatever nonsense people use to deflect that billionaires existence is unjust). It’s full out exploitation in the highest order, but because they toss some breadcrumbs we do the dance for them.

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        Where are the Carnegie types to build public infrastructure? Y’know, improve the lives of the rest of society that gave them enough power to amass such wealth.

        Jesus fucking christ…

        They did that stuff so they’d have an excuse to lobby for tax changes

        None of that shit was for the good of society, it was to trick idiots into voting for tax cuts for the wealthy.

        As soon as they got the tax cuts, the wealthy stopped doing those projects.

        Because the sole reason was PR

        How the fuck are so many people seeing the broad strokes and not only missing the finer details, but missing who painted the fucking picture.

        Gates and even Musk seemed “ok” at one point, they were all pieces of shit their entire lives, they just stopped paying the PR costs

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    The lottery is rigged. The zoro ranch trust doesn’t win the lottery by accident. Stop buying lottery tickets

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    Yea pretty true when houses cost about 1.5 million where I am

    I could try to get a down payment on a condo or a townhouse but the rates are 7.5% right now and hoa fees are about 700 for some reason

    So Im renting till the housing market explodes I guess

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    What is “The American Dream”?

    It always seems to be portrayed idealistically as a single family home in a car dependent suburb. A large driveway, and massive front lawn with a white picket fence. Something like in the image below.

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    Almost all these similar photos have a “traditional family values vibe”, white family, stay at home mom, two kids of different genders. Honestly it all just screams propaganda to me.

    On top of all that when you “zoom out”, that typical “American Dream” becomes a car dependent hellscape ike the one below. With no way to get around.

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    I don’t know, but not everyone has a wish to live in a place like this. Give me walkable transit oriented mixed use neighborhoods with “missing middle” housing types any day.

    Throw in “third-place” public areas where I can hang out with friends and family outside of home and work. Give me regional trains between cities, subways and trams, dedicated bus infrastructure. Give me safe cycling networks and dedicated trails. Give me city parks and fresh produce markets I can walk to.

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      I’m pretty sure the mayor of New York City is not talking about the suburbs when he says, “American Dream.” He means a comfortable life, evenings off work, good schools for your kids, fun vacations, and generally not feeling like you’re one accident away from financial ruin.

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      The original American dream was independence and self sufficiency which was realized through land grants and farming. At some point, the dream got switched to owning a house that is only a collection of monthly expenses, and without any income-producing potential which farming granted. I’m not sure how many other shifts occurred along the way.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Dream

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    23 days ago

    It’s been that way for a long time. The best way to succeed, maybe the only way, is to be born rich.

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    We all need to focus on building class consciousness with everyone we speakto.

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    Unless the US gets back to the pre-1980 tax policies (among many other factors), it’s going to become even harder to reach.

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      If you want the American Dream, you’re going to have to get it the same way our grandparents did.

      Invade Korea.