Battleships have been obsolete for nearly a century.
Next this fool is going to order catapults for his bungled attack on the Persians.
They represent some of the biggest, most heavy firepower single pieces of equipment out there. Useless as they might be in the modern agility and precision based wars it’s pretty on brand for someone who wants to present themselves as some kind of macho strongman.
They represent some of the biggest, most heavy firepower single pieces of equipment out there.
Bruh still hasn’t heard of the trebuchet…
The naval equivalent of a useless fatass is also pretty on brand.
About a century ago was WWI. Idk about that.
They were obsolete after WWI when the first aircraft carriers were introduced.
Come WWII they were food for torpedo bombers.
They were always vulnerable to torpedoes hell that’s one of the reasons why the old dreadnaught class was phased out. Regardless they still served their purpose during WW2 as a way to imperfectly fill the hole that modern destroyers now fill, also they were damned useful artillery platforms in the Pacific and during Korea.
They did have a use, but they were obsolete. Obsolete doesn’t mean useless. It means there are better options. You use what you’ve got, but you don’t make more of things that are obsolete.
My point is they weren’t obsolete by WW2, they were in a bit of a weird doctrinal area by the end of the war for sure but at the start of the war they were certainly still in their prime. Remember carriers were still being figured out during the inter-war period and weren’t exactly all that great, hell the first major use of a carrier during the war was during Pearl harbor and even then that only worked so well because of how small the harbor is which restricted movements and thus the reaction (Didn’t stop the Nevada from beaching itself and becoming a point defense platform) which was frankly luck for the Japanese.
Now by the end of the war they were showing their age especially with the modernized carriers that were being pumped out nearly as fast as battleships and with the improved destroyer and escort designs that could compensate for the relative lack of defenses on carriers. Frankly speaking carriers by themselves are kinda shit, they need an escort fleet to even function lest they be even more exposed than a battleship, hell there’s a reason why everyone kept trying to make carrier battleships for awhile.
I think, especially now in the age of drones, carriers are about obsolete too, yeah. They require the massive support fleets, are a huge, slow, expensive target, and nearly their entire job can be replaced with a much smaller drone carrier. It’ll be an interesting time for naval innovation, but it’s not going to be massive ships.
My money is that shits going to evolve into something like those weird Japanese carrier destroyers or someone is going to dig up the concept for carrier submarines to adapt to drones. Pretty hard to guess since there’s always the possibility that something is found that can hard counter drones kinda like how close air support broke the artillery doctrines post WW1.
Edit: ignore the previous comment lemmy freaked the fuck out.
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Well, he’s also a big fan of walls, so it kinda tracks.
It’s well known that ballistic missiles with kinetic payloads are essentially unstoppable, and can take out carriers, for example, for little cost. A fucking low tech Scud carries something like a ton. Imagine a supersonic swarm of 1000kg tungsten bullets raining on a carrier.
Everyone else is buying drones from the current market leader: Ukraine.
Trump doesn’t like their leader.
So we don’t get drones.
Trump doesn’t like their leader.
Trump chose a side. It’s not Ukraine. Nothing to do with the leader. He just hates Zelenskyy because he keeps fighting back.
Why tf we need drones? We need billionaires to pay taxes and basic necessities to be funded from that.
Yes, but in terms of national defense it makes more sense for us to work on inexpensive quickly deployable drones as opposed to a “battleship”. Taking the “we could spend this on something other than the military” factor out of the equation.
“Trump-class.”
Trump has no class. They’ll be oil tankers with fake gold paint.
Why are the Democracts giving Trump ideas on how not to fuck up his military spending? They really shouldn’t be doing that, because they are on the long list of potential targets of that US military as soon as Trump decides he has enough of pretending to care about that whole constitution thing.
After spending 2025 sending sternly worded letters, the Dems appear to be spending 2026 doing everything they can to help the GOP in the midterms. Cancelling the gas tax to keep gas prices down so the illegal, immoral Assault on Iran’s impact are lessened was really the cherry on top for me.
Nono, keep wasting billions.
Regards
The rest of the world
LOL, “trump class”
Is that something that is plated in fake gold and utterly tacky, gross, outdated and generally useless?
Essentially…yes
A Trump class battleship would have no class whatsoever.
Instead of those ugly gray ones, imagine beautiful shiny gold
But would it have a ballroom?
Like school on a saturday
Trump chose “battleship” because he thinks it sounds impressive to the average midwesterner (he’s usually right about these things), there’s no chance they’ll ever be built, and they know that. But now they get to complain that the Dems are stopping his big strong battleships which isn’t the image they need to be cultivating right now… unless it’s tied to the economy which is the only message.
The U.S. needs universal healthcare, not battleships or drones prone to balloon military spending further.
This is big “Thrawn recommends fighters and Star Destroyers while the Emperor wants to build a Death Star” energy for those who know ball
The empire would have been more stable if they pushed Arquitens cruisers over star destroyers.
But then, the empire wasn’t meant to be stable or effective, either.
Republicans keep demonstrating they’re good at wasting taxpayer money.
They’ve always been so good at this.
No we don’t need either massive demilitarization is needed.
No no no, the US desperately NEEDS a golden statue of Trump, bigger than the statues of Kim Il Sung and Kim Yong Il. It should replace the old outdated statue of liberty, as the new statue of pedophilia.
And please, they really need battleships. Because the US is a major threat to the safety of the rest of the world, with their insane military budget. So if they would build all their firepower on one platform it will be a lot easier for us to neutralize their firepower, like with a single torpedo, instead of when it’s spread out onto many small remote controlled platforms.
So please, build those rediculously useless things.
Don’t give him ideas. He’s just going to use the military against US citizen, and not even the right ones.
