• rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The one that bothers me the most is Musk with Star Trek. He’s never seen a fucking second of any part of the franchise. He just knows that it’s about spaceships

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        Don’t let him know that their space age utopia is essentially Marxist socilaism, imagining a world where collectivism triumphs, money is obsolete, and everyone’s material needs are met.

        Which means no wealthy elite like himself. From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

        They just all think they’re the protagonists as they bring about the apocalpyse.

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          Marxist socilaism

          I wouldn’t go quite so far. At the end of the day we mostly see their military, and it’s fairly slim on the details about the rest. We know it’s post-scarcity, it’s democratic, it’s not currency-based, and not much else beyond that.

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            What part isnt marxism? He posited the proles would overthrow the bourgeoisie and get rid of capitalism and the elite ruling class. The federation seems to be exactly that.

            Note that the commenter said marxism, not marxism-leninism which is the form most people are familiar with.

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              In the Star Trek Universe though, from what I remember, there wasn’t a revolution of the working classes. There was a near global collapse due to a series of wars (often stated with different or contradictory dates), followed by some dark age, then a new golden age starting with first contact.

              From my memories of Marx he was also pretty light on the details of the society that would follow his revolution, so if you tilt your head and squint a little, kinda anything goes.

              To me it feels like the wrong label for the task.

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        It’s about many things. Diversity, peace, dialogue, understanding, respect, competence, cooperation… Oligarchs like him have zero of any of those.