I feel sorry for them. But then again, this is what they want.

  • They oppose making parking expensive.

  • They oppose bus lanes

  • They oppose bike lanes.

  • They oppose trains

  • They oppose train stations.

  • They oppose congestion pricing.

They oppose any measure that might reduce car dependency.

  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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    Fuck Ford for trying to rip out already built bike lanes.

    Not sure what the latest is on that but I know the people sued and at least delayed it.

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      Absolutely not. Motorway median metros are the worst kind. Build transit in better places, and remove highway lanes on its on merit.

      Induced demand is a real thing. You can disinduce demand just the same. Remove lanes to delve traffic.

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    No one is pointing out the other side of this that gets neglected and that is “the demand to live just outside the core but commute to the core daily”.

    That just does not work, full stop. There was a time that it seemed to work but we already reached the capacity.

    Even if we have great transportation, having people move so much on a daily basis is a bad idea.

    We really need to move away from the one big city mindset, but it’s not easy to do

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      Work from home should be encouraged. It helped a little during the pandemic, places outside of Toronto saw an influx of people; Orilla, Peterborough, Owen Sound. But Ford ordered all the employees back to the office, and now that model is suffering.

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      one big city is fine as long as you don’t want to have city where you work separate from the suburbs where you live. this is one completely artificially created expectation that only exist in america due to a century of car lobby and propaganda. if your work, doctor, pub, park and shop are all within 5-15min walk from your home and you can get everywhere else by public transport it’s ok if the city stretches wide and it is actually quite pleasant to live in (ymmv).

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    Metro Toronto is a disappointment. It should be have been doubling its subway network every 20 years. Instead it shut down a line, added a few stations on another, and built LRT that’s slower than the bus it replaced.

    It needs express subway tracks, GO with 10 minutes headways, and transit oriented development able to house 10k people within a ten minute walk of every GO stop which means zoning for density,

    Pay for it by owning the land around stations like HK or Singapore and leasing it to developers for 40 story affordable apartments, increasing the gasoline tax, and putting tolls on the 401 and Gardiner.

    Toronto is a transportation nightmare. It’s time to adopt successful models from Asia to make transit fast, convenient, and cheap while making driving fast, convenient, and incredibly expensive. Fill in with protected bike lanes and the city will be liveable and affordable with great air quality

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      Toronto is one Ford family grift piled on top of another. All city planning is based on favours owed to their buddies or to keep their degenerate relatives afloat.

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        The Ford brothers have been a disaster for Toronto. Starting with cancelling Transit City, demolishing the waterfront, encouraging sprawl with no transit option in the Greenbelt. Doug Ford should be in jail. Everyone intelligent said that developers are sitting on 10’s of thousands of approved building sites, and colluding with each other about how many homes get built a year. Now, even though Ford has demolished most of the environmental laws, developers aren’t rushing to build. The developers always had their own schedule. They’re now building fewer homes a year, than when Ford was elected.

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      The underground portion of the Eglinton LRT could have been great. Each station having a residential 30 story tower above it, and lots of retail underground to lease out. Instead each station is larger than a palace, seems empty, and has no retail.

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    Regarding all the “they” in the description: there’s a huge difference in attitudes between people in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) and Trontonians proper…

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    I’m not Canadian or Torontonian (is that the right word?) so I… fail to see why there’s so many cars on both sides of this highway. Where are they going for this fucked congestion to occur in the first place?

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      Usually it’s just people commuting to and from work. A large portion of workers in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) work in Toronto proper, and since Toronto, like essentially every North American urban centre, is so obnoxiously car-dependent they all have to drive in from every direction. It’s like if a five year-old made a town in SimCity.

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        I read elsewhere here that this Ford guy also ordered a return to the office, and wants to build an underground tunnel below this road. Yep, it’s gonna work out. He’s deliberately making this thing worse. He could’ve solved this if he didn’t have that kind of pro-employer agenda, damn.

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      Doug Ford wants to build a tunnel under it to add more lanes.

      Yes, he’s as stupid as he sounds.

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        No he doesn’t he just wants a convenient way to funnel money to people paid to ‘study’ this boondoggle.