As Jason said in the Not Just Bikes, Every Reason to Hate Cars (39:10), video: Everybody hates other people’s cars; we either don’t have one, or don’t make an exception for our own.
Because of this, people who like driving should support every policy that diminishes the number of other cars on the road.
I love driving, and I support most policies like this.
Give me more public transport, more better separate bike roads (especially wider separate bike roads), remove level crossings. And increase fuel tax to pay for it!
I am 100% serious.
I live in one of the municipalities in Sweden with the lowest tax rate, and I’d gladly pay more as there have been several articles about how special needs students won’t get their legally mandated assistance. That is disgraceful. I needed special assistance when I grew up, now as a fully functioning adult, I want to make sure that the next generation also gets the same or better help.
The same goes for public transport, pedestrian and bike infrastructure, it should always get better, not worse, and I am willing to pay my fair share for it.
Despite my being an outspoken member of c/fuckcars and my repeated professed hatred of cars, I technically don’t actually hate cars. They can have agricultural uses. Like if you own a large farm, and want to go check something or do maintenance, a car or truck would be a valid tool to do that.
What I hate is that people use cars to transport themselves around when there are other overall better, yet slightly less flexible alternatives. And that this decision to go with that style of transportation has so many horrible ramifications.
But anyways, when I drive somewhere, and yes, unfortunately, I’m currently forced to live in a situation where I must drive, I am not some weird ball of road rage, projecting hate at all the cars. I just generally hate the situation.
There are also e-scooters, (motor-)cycles, agricultural heavy machinery, … , all of which have drivers, but are not cars.
So your shower Venn-diagram doesn’t venn correctly…Well, e-scooters and motorcycles have riders, to be fair, and most agricultural heavy machinery drivers usually have a car too. But there’s also a lot of people who hate their own car without being fuckcars people and fuckcars people who like cars, but see the problem with car-centric infrastructure. The diagram doesn’t cover a lot of cases
I was going to post the technically-correct meme, since it is the best kind of correct, but now I’m not sure. In my mid-US dialect of English, we call people on e-scooters, motorcycles, and bicycles “riders.” For heavy machinery, it seems context-dependent, but when it’s traveling (slowly) on a public road like a vehicle, it really, really irritates people, so that fits.
NJB on why driving in the Netherlands is better than driving anywhere else is such a good analysis. When you design your transportation infrastructure to reduce conflicts between different travel modes, all the modes benefit.
As a driver, I hate my car too!
I actually rather like cars. Old American muscle cars are beautiful and sound like heaven. Those haven’t been managed to reproduce to this day.
Same for big cars, like The marauder from Top Gear or Mad max style cars, those are awesome.Same for drag racing, both big and small cars. Seeing a huge truck twisting it’s frame when starting is kinda awesome.
What i hate is the infrastructure demand, environmental cost and worshipping of everyday cars. It’s just a transportation method, one of the least efficient, expensive, ugly and i doubt that any single person in existence enjoys sitting stuck in a traffic. Which what most of the daily driving is. In addition to the stress that’s associated with actually driving responsibly, but way too many people fail that part anyway while endangering everyone around them.
I’m a car person. I hate trucks and large vehicles people dont need, which is 98% of them.
Also most drivers should have their license revoked. I enter often in motorsports events and actually know how to handle a car properly, emergency braking and maneuvers etc. No distracted driving. Checking every blind spot every time. Drivers should be forced to take hdpe classes and banned from driving vehicles over 3200 lbs unless needed for work.
The large majority dont do this. Yes, I’m a better driver than most, its just a fact.
In rural areas they are necessary. But we also need public transport for cities where cars dont make sense. Even in my smaller city, banning cars downtown should definitely be done. They ruin it.
As someone who hates driving but has to sometimes. Drivers are way more scarier while driving than walking or biking.
If I cycle to work for a while I hate cars, if I drive to work for a while I hate cyclists.
kinda funny I just replied to another comment with kinda the opposite of yours. Drivers don’t bother me as much when Im not driving. I feel like homers argument in the one simpsons was pretty accurate to how most people drive. “55? That’s ridiculous! Sure, it’ll save a few lives, but millions will be late!”
But you probably hate them for different reasons.
One thing they tend to have in common is the belief that they personally own the road their on.
Same can be said about pedestrians and cyclists on shared multi-use paths.
Had a pedestrian moan at me the other day for not using my bell… For what? I was behind her going at near walking speed because right in front was a blind corner. No chance at attempting to take that at speed and she was blocking the path anyway.
My intent was to wait going slowly until around the corner and then overtake her using the wider bike lane that opens up after the corner. But she just kept going on and on about me not having a bell.
I find it mad how many pedestrians actually apologise to me whenever i have to slow down and follow them waiting for a suitable gap to overtake.
Large groups of joggers on the other hand? Fuck them - bikes and other pedestrians just have to stop and get out of the way when such a large mob of freaks hoves into view - I’ll normally try to get on the road in that case.
Kind of but cars are a big burden:
- you have to keep on top of maintenance, on a bike too but if you kill the chain and sprockets you don’t have to scrap it, the parts are not as expensive and complex
- even the cheapest cars are a lot of money to run, and renting more than two or three times a year is also a lot of money
- cars protect you from the elements and they’re pretty comfortable but it comes at the cost of being sedentary and most people don’t need to spend more time being almost immobile
- car insurance is a stressful scam in a lot of places: scuffing someone’s paint on a parking lot because the wind swung your car’s door open too hard is a big deal if insurance gets involved, where it’s mandatory they really milk it to the bone by holding ”risk” over people’s heads even for stupid mundane shit whereas injuries are paid off as minimally as possible
cars protect you from the elements and they’re pretty comfortable but it comes at the cost of being sedentary and most people don’t need to spend more time being almost immobile
I agree with the rest but partly disagree with this point. Having a car doesn’t necessarily mean you are sedentary, especially if it’s a secondary means of transportation in a walkable/rideable city. The sedentary lifestyle is more often the result of where people live, especially in rural/suburban areas- which often yes, is a result of car culture destroying human experiences
