• notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip
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    Ooohhh that’s sweet, this meme assumes he knows anything at all about American history. I bet if you gave him 5 minutes he’d have himself convinced he was part of founding this country.

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    Is such a shame Grant is listed as corruption when nothing that happened during his administration would even register during the last 50 years of corruption. Hell compared to what’s happening right now his administration was Saint like.

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      And it wasn’t like Grant himself was corrupt. It was more that he was made figurehead of a political party he didn’t have deep connections with and he was focused a lot on civil rights and mending the nation after the war.

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        He did have a nasty tendency to trust people who shouldn’t have been trusted. Not party insiders, but personal friends. Or ‘friends’ rather.

        He was used by monsters who didn’t care if they sabotaged his entire cause and the USA, as long as they got out with their bag of money.

        Just a few more good men around Grant could’ve made all the difference in the trajectory of this country.

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        Yes it’s important to remember a lot of the narrative on Grant was shaped by a lost cause myth supporters. Tainted by should be the better word I suppose.

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          He has been legally proven to be a rapist (and a racist as well). He had depositions with corroborating witnesses saying he is a pedophile. Allegedly there are Epstein docs saying he is as well. But it hasn’t been proven legally.

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          Pedophilia is a mental illness. There isn’t a “both” here, pedophilia on its own doesnt make anybody a criminal. So please stop disregarding the severity of the situation, essentially spreading ableist disinformation.

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    And people say we aren’t ready for a woman president when I say AOC is our best chance.

    I’m pretty sure she’s not a rapist. And wouldn’t protect rapist. And also not a pedo.

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      No no. She would’ve started all kinds of wars and eventually ww3 dont you remember? President of peace and honesty is way better 🤙

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      Outside of the blatant racism, he was generally a well respected President who designed a lot of the framework for the post World War II international order while not being able to implement it in his time.

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        Jonah Goldberg, George Will, CATO, and many others would like to have a few words with you.

        Oh. And Shirley. I know you didn’t mean it to sound that way but she is still going to want to say something.

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        There was also the immense domestic repression, including jailing dissidents during WW1.

        Also, the racism had a huge impact. The USA was no anti-racist paradise before, but Wilson set matters back a half-fucking century. And in doing so, took an immense amount of energy of decent folk into fighting to claw back the rights of Black Americans.

        Exacerbating a problem not only exacerbates the problem, but also reduces resources available for all other problems.

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        It’s why Franklin never became president:

        “the pleasure of corporal enjoyment with an old woman is at least equal, and frequently superior, every knack being by practice capable of improvement.”

        Meanwhile Jefferson’s like “my fourteen year old slave can’t technically say no”.