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The idiocy goes right over their heads
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If conservatives were discriminated against, all of this would be true.
But they aren’t discriminating against conservatives for intellectual jobs. They’re discriminating against idiots.
It just so happens, for whatever reason, that the upper echelon of intellectuals often reject the backwards and counterproductive conservative dogma in favor of rational policies based in reality.
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That’s just what a woke gay muslim atheist commie would say!
You forgot TRaNs! Everything we don’t like is TRaNS!!
Yep, which this is not DEI, for the reason you describe. DEI just means you need to ensure you aren’t discriminating against certain segments of society. It doesn’t mean you have to hire or accept equal percentages, only that you aren’t dismissing some due to discriminatory factors.
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Do these “conservative professors” have masters degrees and teaching credentials? What subjects are they qualified to teach? If so where are they hiding? Do they have a resume? Are they responding to job adds?
They will teach the subjects of FREEDOM and FAMILY VALUES.
So this will be one class separate from American history and political science I’m guessing. Would it be considered sociology? Or philosophy? Sounds more philosophical to me
They will call it “Freedomology” and you will like it.
If you dislike it, you will be taken away and reeducated until you like it.
What, are you telling me my doctorate from Prager U isn’t real?
It’s as real as their god.
They already exist. They’re usually found in law, business, or theology departments (though not all professors in those departments are conservatives). They also exist in departments that don’t require you to apply your critical thinking skills to social issues, such as maths, IT or engineering. You wouldn’t know whether your professors in those subjects are rightists, conservatives, liberals or leftists though, because politics doesn’t actually ever come up in classes that aren’t related to societal issues. The only way you’d find out is if a professor is obviously biased against women and/or minorities, which does happen sometimes. The people in the original post don’t care about any of this though, the outrage is the entire point and the truth doesn’t matter.
Hard to believe there’s that many around. I had an American history teacher in JC that taught the civil war from the “states rights “ perspective. He taught with his own book and his class did feel like attempted indoctrination. Even my math teachers were pretty obviously not facist from they jokes and general good humor ext… i just don’t think there’s a large amount of educated people so devout in their far far right ideology that they all of a sudden want to become professors of bullshit …but maybe
I’m not saying that there’s people who become professors to spread their conservative ideas. Just like how there aren’t really any people who become professors to spread their liberal ideas. Nobody would become, let alone remain, a professor if they used their platform to convince students of their ideology. What I’m saying is being highly educated in one area is absolutely not a guarantee you’ll become a leftist, or even a liberal. And there’s plenty of professors that will never share their political views, just how it should be. Some of them are certainly conservatives.
In a less polarized time that was probably true but where were at now you literally have to deny facts to be “conservative “
Alumni of the schools of hard knocks, common sense and Jaysus Chrahst.
Ah yes the school of white privilege and having to exist in a world with diversity “hard knocks”
Cousin Merle, recipient of the prestigious Joseph McCarthy professorship for Chucking Beer Cans Behind the Shed
Think of it this way. Kurt Vonnegut was, by pretty much any standards, “woke” as hell.
Because he was a product of his times, he used the phrase “Mongoloid idiot” for Down’s Syndrome because that was the proper scientific term.
I’ll never understand people who cannot understand the difference in language across different eras. Just because we know it’s offensive now doesn’t automatically default everyone who ever used it as being just as bad at all points in the past
I’m not sure if you’re praising or condemning me.
We both agree that the term is seen as offensive now, but wasn’t in the past.
My point was that even someone as enlightened as Vonnegut had a blind spot. That goes to the idea of ‘conservative engineers’ who are probably just repeating things they were taught without thinking about it.
If you were taught about the “massacre” at Little Big Horn all your life, it’s hard to consider it from the other side.
I’m agreeing with you and just kind of generally rambling about the people who would be mad at Vonnegut in your post.
Kinda like the people upset that huckleberry finn has the n word in it
And like many fields dominated by white men, they make it harder for non-white non-men to get in. I went to an engineering university (for math) and lived with my white male engineer friends. I watched one of them get into our very competitive grad school despite having bad grades, a late application, and no experience because all of his white professors liked that he wasn’t an Asian exchange student
I know anecdotes aren’t reality, but even on super liberal college campuses there’s still some pockets of right wing people
I also read a paper (or maybe a book chapter?) a while back that discussed the fact that the way we teach engineering actively encourages people to become less socially conscious and more conservative. I can’t remember the name of the author, but I remember I found the paper/chapter from this video(total video is 33:52 in length and is a great watch if you’re a video person. However, the link is timestamped to the engineering bit that cites the paper/book I referenced)
Perhaps universities would hire more conservative professors if more conservatives were smart enough to be one.
“You don’t need a university degree to xyz!” Okay but you need one to teach university.
There is so much wrong with this whole notion. But the two that are most painful is the false assertion that there even could or should be “balance” based on the idea that there are only two ways to think… at all. Absurd. And the other is folks consinuously misuing DEI as a stand-in for whenever conservatives whine about not being at the table. I see what they are attempting to say, but it gives weight that there is merit in the argument that they should be given this seat, ans it misuses the actual place for DEI initiatives to help actual people in need of them.
Best summarized by SMBC in “Both Sides”.
years of discrimination
Can’t say the n word no more :(
That’s an impossible task. Conservatives are too stupid to be professors.
They’re too stupid to be presidents too, yet there’s a long line of them.
You historically do not need to be intelligent to be president. Or any kind of leader for that matter. You just need confidence and charisma that can persuade people to listen to you.
Yeah, but we always lower the bar for them, so it’s ok.
Anyone can profess nonsense, but if it’s conservative nonsense, you can get paid for it.
…do they seriously think that they have a large group of very highly educated fans? Really?
No. This is part of there war against hight education. And that goes down more easily by othering.
But there are not enough people to enforce their madness?
But this is exactly what the GOP has been pushing for anyhow, for years now. It’s all written out in Project 2025, amongst other documents.
It’s always been about rules for thee but not for me.
Sure, this needs to be pointed out again and again, but new it is not.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition… There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect”.
Yeah, if anything, comparing this conservative line of thinking to previously established DEI policies grants it way more validity than it deserves. It’s hard to find the best ways to point out but not normalize their blatant hypocrisy.
See “free speech” with conservatives going after anyone making comments about Charlie Kirk’s assassination. Or the “professor hit list” that Toilet Paper USA ran for years. Or being upset about people sharing their pronouns.
The rules don’t really matter. It’s in-group/out-group. They want government so small that it would force me to detransition and become a brood mare for a white Christian man.
If it wasn’t for hypocrisy, the GOP would not exist.
Conservatives are painfully stupid.
The R in Republican stands for Retarded
I’ve spent years trying to imagine how fucking stupid I’d have to be in order to be a conservative and what it would feel like.
I just can’t.
balanced out the years of blatant discrimination
That is not the purpose of DEI initiatives, it frames DEI as an advantage which it is not. It is about recognizing our inherent bias, understanding the strength of diversity, and empowering teams to benefit from diversity by fostering environments where all team members feel respected and empowered to contribute.
Everyone in this image has allowed the fascist demonization of DEI to define their own understanding of it, even if subconsciously. That should cause concern, not applause.
Oh they don’t want fifty percent to be conservative. They want 100%.
That’s the thing with fascism.
Or, bear with me, a conservative at this point in history should never be allowed to teach others. Because conservatism has led to a deeply evil place for a society to be in, and they have no qualms about it. They do not give two shits about logical arguments or facts and thus should be banned from academia for life.
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I’m just upset that God told me that I can’t eat owls.
Luckily, beavers are fish, so it’s ok for lent.
Yeah, we’ve given ourselves a pass on a lot of things, but Old Testament God is going to be pissed off when he comes back to find us eating shellfish and wearing linens with wool.
