Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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    is anyone else fucking sick and tired of discord? it’s one thing if it’s gaming-related[1], but when i’m at a repo for some non-gaming project and they say ā€œask for help in our discord serverā€, i feel like i’m in a fever dream and i’m going to wake up and discover that the simulation i was in was managed by chatgpt


    1. i guess. not really, fuck discord. ā†©ļøŽ

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          and so i pass on the burden, like a virus, to all those who seek truth but must instead whip out their phone to scan a QR code and then get welcome-pinged 18 times in #general

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      Yeah, for multiple reasons. Mostly because all the information in there isn’t accessed or searchable from the outside, and technically not even from the inside because Discord’s search feature fucking sucks.

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        Also logging is hard, all the various channels are annoying (esp as th, and having to jump through various hoops just get into channels (hoops for which the instructions can be outdated/bad (one of them used a feature that was disabled on my machine for some reason, but nobody had realized that was possible)) is just nuts. And then there is the whole thing that Discord itself wants to make the platform as busy as possible by adding more and more moving things. I just want to chat.

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    From gormless gray voice to misattributed sources, it can be daunting to read articles that turn out to be slop. However, incorporating the right tools and techniques can help you navigate instructionals in the age of AI. Let’s delve right in and and learn some telltale signs like:

    • Every goddamn article reads like this now.
    • With this bullet point list at some point.
    • I am going to tear the eyes off my head
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    Ran across a pretty solid sneer: Every Reason Why I Hate AI and You Should Too.

    Found a particularly notable paragraph near the end, focusing on the people focusing on ā€œprompt engineeringā€:

    In fear of being replaced by the hypothetical ā€˜AI-accelerated employee’, people are forgoing acquiring essential skills and deep knowledge, instead choosing to focus on ā€œprompt engineeringā€. It’s somewhat ironic, because if AGI happens there will be no need for ā€˜prompt-engineers’. And if it doesn’t, the people with only surface level knowledge who cannot perform tasks without the help of AI will be extremely abundant, and thus extremely replaceable.

    You want my take, I’d personally go further and say the people who can’t perform tasks without AI will wind up borderline-unemployable once this bubble bursts - they’re gonna need a highly expensive chatbot to do anything at all, they’re gonna be less productive than AI-abstaining workers whilst falsely believing they’re more productive, they’re gonna be hated by their coworkers for using AI, and they’re gonna flounder if forced to come up with a novel/creative idea.

    All in all, any promptfondlers still existing after the bubble will likely be fired swiftly and struggle to find new work, as they end up becoming significant drags to any company’s bottom line.

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      Promptfondling really does feel like the dumbest possible middle ground. If you’re willing to spend the time and energy learning how to define things with the kind of language and detail that allows a computer to effectively work on them, we already have tools for that: they’re called programming languages. Past a certain point trying to optimize your ā€œnatural languageā€ prompts to improve your odds from the LLM gacha you’re doing the digital equivalent sot trying to speak a foreign language by repeating yourself louder and slower.

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    ChatControl is back on the table here in Europe AGAIN (you’ve probably heard), with mandatory age checking sprinkled on to as a treat.

    I honestly feel physically ill at this point. Like a constant, unignorable digital angst eating away at my sanity. I don’t want any part in this shit anymore.

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      ChatControl in the EU, the Online Safety Act in the UK, Australia’s age gate for social media, a boatload of censorious state laws here in the US and staring down the barrel of KOSA… yeah.

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        Yes, of course, it’s everywhere. What’s left but becoming a hermit…?

        But you know what makes me extra mad about the age restrictions? I don’t think they are a bad idea per se. Keeping teens from watching porn or kids from spending most of their waking hours on brainrot on social media is, in and on itself, a good idea. What does make me mad is that this could easily be done in a privacy-respecting fashion (towards site providers and governments simultaneously). The fact that it isn’t - that you’ll need to share your real, passport-backed identity with a bunch of sites - tells you everything you need to know about these endeavors, I think.

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          Would you mind explaining how to do that easily in a way that only reveals age without being a privacy nightmare? Which means that it mustn’t be giving sites an excellent tracking identifier nor requires them to process documents themselves.

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            I’d have imagined something along these lines:

            • USER visits porn site
            • PORN site encrypts random nonce + ā€œis this user 18?ā€ with GOV pubkey
            • PORN forwards that to USER
            • USER forwards that to GOV, together with something authenticating themselves (need to have GOV account)
            • GOV knows user is requesting, but not what for
            • GOV checks: is user 18?, concats answer with random nonce from PORN, hashes that with known algo, signs the entire thing with its private signing key
            • GOV returns that to USER
            • USER forwards that to PORN
            • PORN is able to verify that whoever made the request to visit PORN is verified as older than 18 by singing key holder / GOV, by checking certificate chain, and gets freshness guarantee from random nonce
            • but PORN does not know anything about the user (besides whether they are an adult or not)

            There’s probably glaring issues with this, this is just from the top of my head to solve the problem of ā€œGOV should know nothingā€.

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              PORN site encrypts random nonce

              Really unfortunate word in this context. (Not your fault of course.)

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      Yes, doing the thing which the entire business world is pouring billions into and trying their hardest to shove onto everyone to maximize imagined future profits, that’s what counterculture is all about.

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      This is just haplessly comical. The AI-generated sinister hijab lady, the attempts at algorithm-compliant YouTube face, the fact that they’re doing this instead of raising their kids (which may be beneficial for the kids in the long run…) Who do they imagine they’re convincing?

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      @Soyweiser @BlueMonday1984

      The problem is ā€œarabā€. I won’t make generalizations of Arab. That’s just where you were born. Cant affect where you were squirted out of a womb.

      But Islam? In reality, all the major YHVH religions see women as possessions or second class citizens. That applies to Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.

      And seriously, even Hinduism and Buddhism too discriminate against women as well. Those are #4 and #5 world religions.

      The only set of religions that treat women and men equally are Western Paganism. Women and Men are equal. Like, actually equal. Not fake not-really-equal.

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        Ah, yes, Western Paganism is famed for its uniformity of belief and complete lack of objectionable people saying hateful things. (Pay no attention to the Nazis behind the curtain, they’re not Real Pagansā„¢.)

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        Btw, the ā€˜teen pregnancy’ thing, is prob a bit ahistorical. If we use teen marriages as a standing for teen pregnancies, these were historically very low. (contrary to what people believe about the past, mostly because strategic marriages by rich people/nobles were not, but those people were not normal people) See: https://bsky.app/profile/nogoodwyfe.bsky.social/post/3lv2ehbn7pc2x

        But reactionaries gotta go back to some imagined ideal past. No matter what actually learned people say. (and that is also why the far right is anti-intellectual).

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          Joining the war on teen pregnancies on the side of teen pregnancies to bring back the ideal past of - check notes - the 1990ies in the US.

          (At least a cursory look points toward teen pregnancies in the US peeking some time in the 1990ies.)

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      @Soyweiser @BlueMonday1984

      Wait, are those AMERICANS asking:

      ā€œIs the Arab brain 🧠 incompatible with democracy?ā€

      The Americans who overthrew an Iranian democracy to install a dictator and are currently overthrowing their own elected government so they can be ruled by dictator? Those Americans?

      šŸ¤£šŸ™ƒ

      #uspol #iran

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        Most inhabitants of Iran would dislike being called Arabs… but I guess the lazy racists are just using it as a shorthand for ā€œbrown people who are Muslimā€

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    Cloudflare has publicly announced the obvious about Perplexity stealing people’s data to run their plagiarism, and responded by de-listing them as a verified bot and added heuristics specifically to block their crawling attempts.

    Personally, I’m expecting this will significantly hamper Perpllexity going forward, considering Cloudflare’s just cut them off from roughly a fifth of the Internet.

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      I noticed starting a couple weeks ago that archive.is is requiring me to complete captchas nearly every time I visit. Are other people experiencing this? If so, I wonder if the site’s maintainers are reacting to increased traffic from LLM crawlers. The crawlers probably find Archive extraordinarily useful when they get blocked by source sites.