• @kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2117 hours ago

    Societal collapse is the best thing that can happen right now, capitalism will not save the workers nor the environment. Only a complete revolution can save the workers, the environment, and the future of humanity.

    • @bluewing@lemm.ee
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      72 hours ago

      So back to the rule of kings and Strongman Despots.

      Because that’s what a social collapse will get you every time. There will be no “worker’s paradise”.

    • @fine_sandy_bottom
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      65 hours ago

      Do you actually think that?

      As though we just do societal collapse on Wednesday and then start living our best lives on Thursday?

      • @HasturInYellow@lemmy.world
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        43 hours ago

        If capitalism is allowed to continue it will render humanity extinct. If we collapse now, and are reduced to a fraction of our population this century, humanity may live.

        I don’t enjoy that being the best option we have at this point. It brings me no joy. But what brings me less joy is knowing that we won’t even make a choice. We will continue blindly waddling along and as capitalism consumes the world, we will wonder who will save us. And no one will.

        • @fine_sandy_bottom
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          -22 hours ago

          Is anyone actually claiming that we’re on a path to extinction? That’s hyperbole.

          This type of thinking is not constructive in any way.

          • @Vandals_handle@lemmy.world
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            62 hours ago

            We are in the midst of the sixth mass extinction event the earth has experienced. As ecosystems collapse, organisms at the top of the food web are in peril. Yes, humans are in danger of extinction.

            • @fine_sandy_bottom
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              12 hours ago

              What a silly thing to say.

              You realise extinction requires no living specimens to exist right?

              Some number of humans will prevail even if the only thing left to eat is slime mold.

              Climate change is a big deal. The future is very bleak. People with the power to mitigate the damage are doing the opposite.

              Claiming that human extinction is possible or likely about as helpful as suggesting that ancient aliens have the solution.

    • @angrystego@lemmy.world
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      1310 hours ago

      I’m afraid it’s not going to save anyone, because it’s going to be a collapse with many casualities mainly on the side of the poor, not a revolution. I imagine it as a social disaster. The rich will be ok.

      • Zement
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        68 hours ago

        The rich will be ok and their kids will repopulate earth. With a plow, a hammer and a sicle. Oh the irony…

        • @JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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          32 hours ago

          Richfolk are known for their strong survival skills.

          My odds are on them being the first ones killed and looted when the shit really hits the fan.

          • Zement
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            123 minutes ago

            Well… extrapolate the development and they will probably set base in new Zealand. When shit really hits the fan they are out of reach. And when climate change hits them they are old.

    • nifty
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      1611 hours ago

      Societal collapse doesn’t guarantee anything for people who want any kind of revolution