Mod Log.

My post got removed despite it being from a reliable source (Ukrayinska Pravda- Media Bias/ Fact check.)

I am not looking to participate in a community where mods remove posts based on their feelings about the source, there needs to be a proof to the mod claim.

Why did my post got removed in this case?

How is the source unreliable, what is the mod proof for that?

  • @jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    -411 hours ago

    By being an official press release, not a Facebook post.

    Anyone saying “Well, I saw it on Facebook” is about as reliable as “Well, someone told me on the telephone.”

    If the numbers are actually confirmed? By all means, re-post it.

    • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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      11 hours ago

      Please jordanlund, it is an official press release on Facebook!! They do it on Facebook and Telegram, and the ministry of defense is now again posting on their homepage again, after a ½ year pause after an attack on Kyiv.
      So for a period Facebook and Telegram were actually the only places to get them!

      Many do this on Facebook or Xitter, Harris confirmed her run for the presidency on Xitter!!! Are you claiming her announcement to run wasn’t official?
      This is no different. I don’t like it either, because those sites are inherently not secure, but that’s the world we live in.

      Incidentally When Harris announced that on Xitter it was allowed AFAIK without any questions from any moderators.

      Edit PS:
      You are moving the goal post!! Just in case you didn’t notice.

        • geekwithsoul
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          27 hours ago

          Now you’re just being intentionally obtuse:

          Official Ministry of Defence page with the same numbers:

          https://www.mil.gov.ua/en/news/2024/09/24/the-estimated-combat-losses-of-russians-over-the-last-day-1400-persons-61-artillery-systems-3-anti-aircraft-systems/

          “Data are being updated.”

          Obviously a rough English translation and more precisely should probably be “Data subject to change” or “Data continues to be collected”.

          Just like any military stats are reported across the world.

        • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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          Found the source again, and you are decidedly lying!!

          https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/09/24/7476472/

          They write the information is being confirmed, and it’s a translation problem. That means it’s being updated.
          It’s 100% normal military procedure, to confirm/update any incoming information as new information arrives. These people are NOT native english speakers.

          You are being an asshole. And you are arguing from ignorance.

          • @jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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            -19 hours ago

            That’s the exact same source I’ve been quoting.

            The one that says:

            “Source: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Facebook”

            and

            “This information is being verified”.

            Source is unvetted information from a Facebook page.

            You wouldn’t accept it if Russia was doing it, or if Israel was doing it, we aren’t accepting it from Ukraine either.

            • @Nobilmantis@feddit.it
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              -17 hours ago

              Thanks. It must not be easy to impartially moderate content regarding a war and keeping it factual, when most of the userbase lives in countries directly or indirectly on one side of the conflict.

              • geekwithsoul
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                27 hours ago

                That’s why they should be falling back on the reputable sources as shown by their own MBFC bot instead of playing backseat journalist and questioning individual sources within an article.

                • @Nobilmantis@feddit.it
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                  07 hours ago

                  Sure, but if no reputable sources are available for a specific matter yet (which is especially common when it comes to war bullet-ins from the government of one of the two fronts) then what? Moreover, what would “falling back” consist of? Positing a comment? The user that posted the thing was not banned, and they were clearly instructed to re-post from a more reliable source.

                  • geekwithsoul
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                    27 hours ago

                    But that’s the whole point - the source linked in the original post is deemed to be reliable by their own determined tool. So why is a mod nitpicking the text within the linked article? It’s either a reputable source or not. They kept stuff from the New York Times about the Oct 6 attacks even though that didn’t have good sources, and they throw out anything from Fox News even if it’s factually correct.

                    The mod made a mistake and didn’t seem to realize that the Ukrainian Pravda (legit, privately owner, reliable) is different from Russian Pravda (owned by Russian Communist Party, propaganda) - and keeps coming up with excuses why he did what he did. It’s sad

              • @jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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                27 hours ago

                OMG you have NO idea. I know people in Lebanon RIGHT NOW. People who have lived through previous Israeli assaults. It’s super hard to step back and go “So, wait, if it were the other side doing this…”

        • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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          111 hours ago

          Honestly WTF?, please state your source, because I can’t find the link to it, because you removed it!!!

          I AM SO CLOSE TO BLOCKING YOU NOW; YOU ARE BEING INCREDIBLY IRRATIONAL!!
          Come to think of it, I think I’ll report you.

          • @Nobilmantis@feddit.it
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            07 hours ago

            This ^ is the same person which, after I dared to answer to their buzz-sentences about the war (“Russia is the evil, doing genocide, they don’t want to negotiate” etc) with some arguments and a few facts that they didn’t like (but they didn’t respond to), proceeded to throw in a few more bullet points with zero-claims out of their feelings, and informed me that they blocked me. Lmao. Karen/Simon who believe what they are told on facebook must always bee the right side of history.

            • geekwithsoul
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              27 hours ago

              Dude, really? Did you not see the links I provided from the official Ministry of Defense site or the verified Facebook account? The other news sites providing the same information?

              At this point you seem to only be arguing in bad faith because you don’t want to admit you couldn’t tell the difference between Russian Pravda and the Ukrainian Pravda. That was the only thing mentioned in your comment on the removed post, and everything since then has seemingly been posturing.

              This is so disappointing - I’ve been a vocal proponent of the job you mods are doing and supportive of your efforts to use what tools you have to help with a difficult job, and you’re just being completely unreasonable about this.