I have no issues with India.
As an Indian-Canadian I had to look up what this was as it wasn’t what I expected.
My experience is that Canadian kids first learn about “Cowboys & Indians”, where “Indian” means "Native-American. Then at school, they learn that India and Indians refer to a far away country with cool tigers and cobras, and Europeans were just confused. Then, as adults, they learn about the “Indian Act” and go 🤔 🤨 🙃
not enough cool tigers in my opinion.
can we at least agree on a better name something less out of touch with current realities?
ill suggest: the We All Share Prosperity act
;)
and replace it with what?
Crazy idea: replace the Senate with the Assembly of First Nations.
As long as it’s only 100% trans indigenous assembly with zero european blood. Sure, why not…
lol
what difference would that make? they are still people.
maybe put your phone down for and go talk to some actual indigenous people before you decide what to think.
European blood is far from clean, with a greatest hits list of guys like oh i dont know: ADOLF HITLER? JOSEF STALIN? KARL FRAKING MARX? FRIDRICH ENGELS bro communist AF, we also got SIGMUND FREUD, notorious pervert… Nietzcshe who gave us the IDEA of the UBERMESNCH, bro nice list? oh who else we got? fucking GODFATHER of FASCISM (that went well right?) Mousolini. yup italy thats EU too, lotta not good blood there buds. nice try tho .
maybe ill suggest EU is not the best example.
the problem is blood dont matter, its actions. gender dont matter its actions. birthplace dont matter, ITS ACTIONS.
they are still people
Never claimed or believed otherwise.
go talk to some actual indigenous people
Went to school with them. Lived and worked with them, for them and alongside them for years.
European blood is far from clean
You forgot that racist, white supremacist POS Winston Churchill. He killed millions and then laughed at them and their misery. No different from his cousin Adolf.
EU blood not looking too good
Which is why the assembly should be 100% indigenous blood.
What a bunch of bullahit. The Nobel Savage view again. They are people no worse or better then any other. Do you hear about their atrocities no they where smaller scale and not caught in our history.
Humans have been violent to each other from the very beginning to think they where/are any different is just stupid.
Firstly, I doubt most people actually believe an all trans, 100% indigenous-only, unelected assembly will ever happen. Nor should it, frankly. Not if you want to live in a democracy.
Secondly, nothing i said suggests i consider anyone to be either noble or a savage. I certainly don’t think anyone is a “noble savage”. That’s white supremacist talk and I’m not in sync with them at all.
In this country, they got some of the worst treatment possible. Generations grew old without being allowed to learn their own language and culture. Compare this to Indians. (insert racist dot and feather reference here).
Indians also got colonized. Enslaved. Brutalized. Stripped of their sovereignty, dignity, wealth and much more. Yet we have kids born in Canada who speak various languages of India that their families teach them. You can take various elective classes to learn languages of Asia in many Canadian high schools. You barely see one anywhere teaching indigenous languages in most districts.
Native folks did suffer pretty fkn bad. If you think their plight is even remotely similar to what white south africans suffered at the hands of British fktards then you should stop listening to Musk, Rogan, Schultz, Gillis and the rest of that white supremacist manosphere.
You’re allowed to wear religious headgear from Asia and ride a motorcycle without a helmet in various provinces. Indigenous religious headgear does not get the same treatment or respect in this country.
Brampton gets clean water in every house and apartment. Blood Reserve doesn’t.
…frankly, I get the feeling that you hate Brampton as well as Blood Reserve dwellers equally. Lol.
Cheer up, muffin. Stop being such a wet/smallpox blanket. It’s okay to celebrate our fellow countrymen of all persuasions. Except the “second sons” and other white supremacists. Fk them with rusty canadian pacific railway spikes.
alright thats a better tone
Both comments were the same tone by my read
Abject racism just like before. Cause that’s all this would accomplish.
Why do you think it needs to remain on the books in 2026?
He’s talking about abolishing the paternalistic, racist law altogether. Not replace it.
The Indian Act does need to go and most of the statue is colonial bullshit. Something has to replace to it, it could be updated or new treaties, a constitutional amendment, a statute that codifies treaties and how the the Federal government is to interact with Indigenous Peoples.
For example Treaty 1 and 2 are really simple in the sense that it’s only land swap and payment. It doesn’t deal with natural resources, taxation, infrastructure projects that cross boundary lines, movement of goods and services, etc.
Section 87 lays out taxation and is very heavily litigated.
87 (1) Notwithstanding any other Act of Parliament or any Act of the legislature of a province, but subject to section 83 and section 5 of the First Nations Fiscal Management Act, the following property is exempt from taxation:
(a) the interest of an Indian or a band in reserve lands or surrendered lands; and
(b) the personal property of an Indian or a band situated on a reserve.
Section 89 and 80 lays out protections for Indigenous Peoples when it comes to property. This sections mean seem niche however s. 89 and s. 90. have been litigated and have real impacts.
89 (1) Subject to this Act, the real and personal property of an Indian or a band situated on a reserve is not subject to charge, pledge, mortgage, attachment, levy, seizure, distress or execution in favour or at the instance of any person other than an Indian or a band.
(1.1) Notwithstanding subsection (1), a leasehold interest in designated lands is subject to charge, pledge, mortgage, attachment, levy, seizure, distress and execution.
(2) A person who sells to a band or a member of a band a chattel under an agreement whereby the right of property or right of possession thereto remains wholly or in part in the seller may exercise his rights under the agreement notwithstanding that the chattel is situated on a reserve.
90 (1) For the purposes of sections 87 and 89, personal property that was
(a) purchased by Her Majesty with Indian moneys or moneys appropriated by Parliament for the use and benefit of Indians or bands, or
(b) given to Indians or to a band under a treaty or agreement between a band and Her Majesty, shall be deemed always to be situated on a reserve.
Throwing out the god awful Indian Act and not having something to replace it, is a very terrible idea that will lead to major consequences. Kinew is intelligent, he probably knows know that however he saw a golden opportunity to do some PR with a damn good quote. Kinew’s actions got people talking again about how things have to change. Something the Federal Government acknowledged back in 2014 with the Indian Act Amendment and Replacement Act.
All I know as an non-Indigenous person is that: Indigenous peoples have been shit on by Governments for centuries, the relationship between Canada and Indigenous Peoples needs to be improved, and the Indian Act is a colonial artifact that has no place in Canada. What ever replaces it, may it be updated or new treaties or whatever definitely needs the buy in Indigenous Peoples.
Honest question, since I don’t know:
What law establishes seperate governmental areas (like my local SNGD), and seperate rights? In most provinces, would that be the treaties? What happens in unceeded territories, like I’m BC.
Indian act wasn’t about treaties. Supreme Court has done a better job upholding the rights and treaties of indigenous folks in recent years than the any government assigned “Indian Agents” ever did.
It reduces all indigenous people down to “Indians”. It was put in place with the intent to control and “civilize the savages”. It’s racist and an insult to the intelligence and abilities of people like Wab Kinew, P.J. Akeeagok, Jody Wilson-Raybould and many more to pretend like the Indian Act accomplishes anything positive.
No, I get that, it’s a horrible peice of dates law that should never have been put in place
My question is more: do any modern rights that the indigenous rely on arise from it, and if so, dont we need it to ensure they maintain those rights?
https://lemmy.ca/post/72945602/26034469
/u/Riverview_Legal explained it better than I ever could.
I suspect they will lean on constitutional precedent which has been strong the last decade or so.
Another notwithstanding clause.
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-5/
Relevant text.
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Long past time
