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Pope Leo XIV @Pontifex: In this era of artificial intelligence, it is becoming urgent to distinguish human art from what machines produce. There is an ontological difference, even before an aesthetic one, between art and what a machine can generate through statistical calculation based on millions of images created by others. Algorithms lack the spark of humanity. For this reason, the Church wishes to renew an alliance with artists and cultural institutions to safeguard our humanity.

Spectro @Spectromachina: Pope, would you please shut the fuck up about matters you do not understand? You’re not an Ai influencer, no one elected you, and you have absolutely no weight in this debate and you’re being used as a mouthpiece to sway public opinion. how many local models do you run?

    • luciferofastora@feddit.org
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      17 days ago

      We could debate how fair that election is, but that’s a lost cause with churches anyway. It also certainly isn’t an open, democratic election by any stadard, but again, transparency and democracy have never been their mission statement. I’m also on board with treating the cardinals as nobody (important), but that’s not a literal “nobody” either.

      So, yeah, he is elected, and by one of the strangest procedures I’ve ever heard about.

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        17 days ago

        It’s basically the same as a board of directors electing their CEO. You not liking the catholic church doesn’t make the election any less valid.

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          16 days ago

          Are the directors also isolated from the outside world, strictly sworn to secrecy, with only a subset of members of the board eligible for election by a two-thirds supermajority, unless the last CEO changed the voting rules again?

          It absolutely is an election, I wasn’t disagreeing with that. It’s a particularly ritualistic one, which also isn’t a discredit, just an observation about the singular nature of it.

          But if you want to defend the legitimacy of the papal elections, I suggest finding a less openly corrupt analogue than corporate leadership. At least the pope has to know about the faith he’s supposed to lead; CEOs only need to know how to manipulate markets to make numbers go up and pretend they can go up infinitely.

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    18 days ago

    Only an “AI influencer” can weigh in on the use of AI? Gee, I’m sure that will lead to nothing but a reasonable, balanced, and nuanced consideration of the issue 🙄

    also, lol @ “how many local models do you run?” as if those aren’t also trained on millions of stolen images. Do you even lift run local models bro?

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      Ironically as you stated the do you even ai bro is likely using a model he didn’t build that some company based on stolen material, when the Vatican actually does run several private models they actually trained themselves, based mostly on texts in their extensive private library, formed to assist in translations mostly. Though many of those texts are likely stolen during the crusades and other notorious events as well.

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      18 days ago

      If any group should have exclusive opinions about LLM generated images, it should be human artists

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      18 days ago

      “how many local models do you run?”

      This makes me think this guy is just a troll. It’s just too on the nose to be real. Combine that with his edgy profile pic and my bullshit alarm is ringing.

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    “you’re being used as a mouthpiece to sway public opinion”

    “Yes… I am God’s representative on Earth…”

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    18 days ago

    The dumbest thing here (and it was a tough competition) was using the term “influencer” to imply expert authority.

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    18 days ago

    “you’re not an AI influencer” got me barfing

    “noone elected you” : ok so this dipshit doesn’t know the second thing about popes

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    “AI influencers” are incredible idiots even amongst idiot influencers. Like said below, using that term as some kind of respected title is beyond ridiculous.

    I’m pretty into the local ML space, and I can’t name a single “influencer” that isn’t a shameless scammer or totally unhinged. Or both. Not one that posts anymore, anyway.

    Even if they’re talking about some early researchers who Tweet, if you actually listen to them, they’re calling out transformers LLMs as dead ends and have moved to other spaces in ML.

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    Spectro, would you please shut the fuck up about matters you have a financial stake in? You’re an Ai influencer, no one elected you, and you have absolutely no impartiality in this debate and you’re being used as a mouthpiece to sway public opinion. How many fascists do you pay fees to every month?

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    18 days ago

    how many local models do you run?

    I will ask this every AI shill from now on. We all know they are just OpenAI bootlickers

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      I mean, I’m probably one of those people you’d call out, and I’ve never had an OpenAI subscription, never downloaded the app. Not once. I payed a few pennies for A/B tests via API, is all.

      I’ve thought Sam Altman was a creep for a long, looong time.