pointless blathering in a more focused conversation that is less “where you are born” and more “are you in favour of ethnic cleansing”.

So that’s a yes, we do need to have the ‘where you are born is not a moral statement’ discussion? Because ‘Israeli’ is a nationality, not a political ideology. You are describing a political ideology while ascribing it to everyone born there–which includes people who are ethnically Palestinian–on a post about two Israelis doing more for Palestinians than everyone in this thread put together. You seriously don’t see the ridiculousness in that?