Want to wade into the sandy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.
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Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutānāpaste it into its own post ā thereās no quota for posting and the bar really isnāt that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned so many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)


itās hard to explain how wrong this is thing is if you donāt already know the books (which is a demonstration of the same principle, it looks too plausible, itās signal-shaped noise). but Iāll try.
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Plot errors
Or, ādoes this thing even work?ā (the answer is no).
A bitter 10-year winter: The winter is 1) famously not arrived yet, weāre waiting for it to this day, itās not even autumn yet as of book #2; and 2) not 10 years but an unpredictable amount of years, the unpredictability being the worst part of it.
The Queenās sons and Robertās brothers battle for control of the realm: The Queen has 2 sons, only one of them is battling and thatās debatable as heās a puppet of the Lannisters and their alliances. Robertās brothers are battling, yes, but also, famously, Nedās son the King in the North, and the Reaver-King of the Seastone Chair. Itās famously called the War of the Five Kings, not the War Of The Previous Kingās Brothers And His Sons.
Robertās young daughter, Princess Arya Stark: Arya is famously the daughter of Ned Stark and distinctly not a princess.
The exiled last heir of the former ruling family tends to his dragons: The bot force-transed Daenerys Targaryen š
The guardians of the realmās Wall dwindle in numbers as menacing barbarians gather their forces: The guardians have already dwindled in numbers, literally millennia ago, and the actual menace isnāt the people beyond the Wall but what theyāre running away fromāviz. winter, a supernatural death force that is, famously, coming. Getting people to focus on the actual menace is the entire point of this sub-setting.
Synopsis errors
These are subtler than the funny plot errors but worse, because they defeat the purpose of a synopsis: informing the reader about whether this is their cup of tea, whether it it something they want to commit to right now.
āGood and evil content for powerā: ASoIaF is famously a series whose whole point is to deconstruct simple binaries of good and evil in fantasy, to present multiple perspectives simultaneously, all of them flawed to various degrees but still having valid points.
āMenacing barbarians gather their forcesā: As pointed above, the entire point of the story is that other peoples like the Free Folk arenāt actually barbarians, or if they are theyāre still well justified in the menacing, or sometimes they are truly fucked up but then not any more fucked up than the more State-based societies, etc. Characterising them in this way sets up the reader to expect the wrong kind of novel. A proper synopsis would be to the note of: āMeanwhile, Ned Starkās bastard son Jon Snow struggles to convince the Watchers on the Wall to put aside their prejudices and focus on the common threat, for winter is comingā¦ā
āSet in a glittering fantasy worldā: This one is less wrong than it sounds as, unlike the TV producers, George R R Martin does understand that fantasy is made of glitter and dazzle, azure and carmine, and thereās plenty of colour,sparkle and glittering things in here. However, that phrasing doesnāt distinguish or characterise the books in contrast to any other conventional fantasy series, to the point of severe mischaracterisation. The distinguishing point of ASoIaF is precisely mixing that glitter and velvet with starving masses and diarrhea epidemics, to juxtapose genuine magic and awe with oppression and horror. āA glittering fantasy worldā is like calling Dubai a āglittering urban cityā or North Korea a āglittering green farmscapeā and leaving it at that.
āDeftly realised magicā: The series does the āreturn of magicā trope so thereās little magic or supernatural in the first two books, and what there is is very deliberately not ārealisedāāitās left suggested, ambiguous and incipient, a thing of the shadows, where you donāt know if a prophecy is real or not, if a god is a god or a delusion. If youāre looking for a detailed and fully realised magic system, youāre reading the wrong type of fantasy.
Silly errors
Queen Cerisi: How does a computer misspell Cerseiās name? How did capitalists burned billions to invent worse computers that are crappier?
George Martin pursues the embattled Seven Kingdoms through a bitter 10-year winter: All by himself, then? Did he bring a cook at least? No wonder the final books are taking so long, the guy is waging a one-man war at his age.
enriched by 8000 years of history: 8000 years. Why 8000 years. [untitled goose chasing meme] why 8000 years?!? the Dawn Age was over 12000 years ago, the Age of Heroes >10000, Aegonās Conquest was about 300 years ago and the fall of the Targaryens 16; the relevance and richness of history increases logarithmically with recency, the remote eras are barely sketched, and thereās no special relevance to the 8000 mark. Maybe the first Long Night, but its dating is dubious, and thereās no reason why you would consider that sketch of lore as particularly āenrichingā for the story but disregard the invasion of the First Men and the Pact which likely caused the Long Night in the first place.
what am I doing with my life why did I set out to do this. I miss wasting precious free time late night because somebody was wrong on the Internet, emphasis on somebody
Itās been so long that I last cared about anything GoT-related but that was such a good summary. Your post goes straight in my bookmarks, thanks for making it.
āCerisiā and gender confusion make me think this might be for some reason a machine translation of a generated summary, so like, two layers of slop?