• Sludgeyy@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    As someone with aphantasia and no internal monologe it makes sense to me.

    So many people tell me their brains just send them images and monologe without them “thinking” it themselves first. Like to me they are reacting to what their brain is telling them. And that’s what is required to be schizophrenic.

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      14 hours ago

      Yeah, kinda. To explain it very simplified, you have a thinking brain, and an emotional brain, for example you are not either of these things, you are (we are all) observing those brain processes. Your thinking brain is designed to churn away, and similarly your emotional brain. In my interpretation, some people’s parts are just louder and more vibrant. Which can have pros and cons, it’s way more manageable if it’s not so loud it’s domineering. Having a thinking brain, that’s essentially grown and formed by all of the input, until now, churning away loudly, isn’t really a description of schizophrenia. It’s more, a depth of perception of reality, both based on internal and external perceptions. This article is talking about the relationship between the ocular reception, as interpreted by the brain, though, so not really the thinking brain, or emotional brain.

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      13 hours ago

      Do you have multisensory aphantasia? I was shocked to learn that people can replicate all of their senses.

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        11 hours ago

        I’m not sure.

        I can not smell things without actually smelling them. Same with taste.

        I can imagine my hand rubbing on different grit sandpaper and know how they would feel differently but I don’t “feel” it.

        I can play songs in my head with sounds that are like the actual sounds but it’s similar to humming or whistling in my head. It’s not like I hit play and just listen. I don’t get earworms.

    • Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      18 hours ago

      I have bipolar and it feels like my brain just tosses things at me. I get some really good ideas and I am quick with jokes because i don’t even think, my brain is an absurdity machine.

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    They also can learn to echolocate to the point the vision area of the brain process it.

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      20 hours ago

      When I was in grade school, we had a music teacher who was blind from birth. If someone was jacking around in class, she knew where all the students sat and could identify the culprit by relying entirely on her hearing. It was impressive.

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      I remember long ago, watching a show where a blind teenage boy used echolocation to skateboard around. I thought it was the coolest thing.

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      Hehe and somehow you are the only person to let me know. Maybe everyone else missed it too. Thanks

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      20 hours ago

      my most common type of typo by far, and yet worse, it is usually words like “not” that I forget, resulting in funny although concerning miscommunications

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    Maybe the blind schizophrenics just don’t ever know.

    If they are hearing hallucinations, how would they know they aren’t real? It’s not like they can see that there’s nobody saying these things.

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        schizophrenics often can’t tell easily by themselves that they are schizophrenics, if a blind person comments about hearing things others might simply write it off as their (the blind one’s) acute and great sense of hearing that the blind developed through necessity that they (others non blind) don’t have and thus can’t hear

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        1 day ago

        That implies that schizophrenic people ARE stupid for believing the things that they experience.

        Which is much more offensive and disrespectful than what I said.

    • Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      2 days ago

      Schizophrenia produces many symptoms other than hallucinations and causes profound cognitive and social dysfunction. Poverty of thought, delusions, disordered thinking and speech among others. There would be signs others could see.

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      1. If you know you’re alone at home and then hear voices, that might be one way. There are ways to distinguish the presence of people beyond sight.

      2. Blindness is much more than total blindness, which only describes a minority of blind people. There are different definitions, but the World Health Organization puts the definition as less than 3/60 or a visual field of less than 10 degrees in the better-seeing eye. That basically means that if you need to be more than 20 times closer to an object to be able to see the same level of detail, or you have almost no peripheral vision, you qualify.

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      The sighted schizophrenics don’t know their hallucinations aren’t real. It’s always an external diagnosis.

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          Right, I should have known better than to use “always” there. “Often” would have been safer. The point was that the number of senses you have don’t matter much, as the brain is plenty capable of building a full hallucinated experience with whatever senses you’re used to using.

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        1 day ago

        Oh, I know. I’ve spent years trying to explain to my brother that people aren’t actually standing outside his window yelling insults at him.

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      Well, asking someone else who is around would be a good way, for one thing.