I think a better message here is “Democrats can deliver.” Socialists can enter the party and make positive change. In 2026, a lot of people have decided that’s not true, but there’s the proof it can be done.
I know this is a crazy thought but… maybe a random “DemzDeliver” account doesn’t speak for the entire party. Maybe this stupid ass two party system the US refuses to get rid of causes all kinds of different people to be a part of each one.
It speaks well for the leadership and big names in the party though because they threw Zohran under the proverbial bus not only not endorsing him, but some endorsed Cuomo while not trying to talk him down out of running potentially splitting the vote. Fortunately it did not but in that instance the Democrat leadership would rather have let Republicans win than an avowed socialist who is making change.
For all the saying of not letting perfection get in the way of good, a lot of Dems and neo-liberals seem mad by it or try to say they were behind him.
Neither does random accounts spewing pro Chinese or Russian statements, but they never get the “they don’t speak for <>” treatment.
According to them, anyone even saying something good are directly tied to Kremlin, FSB, CCP and 5 cent army. But there’s caution when its propaganda from their side. Yaayy
Yankistanis love using these scare tactics until it comes to bite them.
I’m pretty sure the account democrats deliver is not owned by the DNC and pretending it really was instead is vert silly and misplaced manufactured rage
It’s twitter, nobody on there has critical thinking skills.
I long to live in a world that isn’t Twitter screenshots
Much betta!
goddammit
Looks around
And yet it got posted and upvoted here. Guess we’re not much smarter
Hey that’s not okay! We’re trying to drive wedges in every part of the left now! Why are you fucking our shit up!? /s
Also don’t disregard local elections or people who are pushing quality of life improvements that may not seem like a huge deal.
Borough Democrats supported him from the jump.
Rag on the corpos all you want but understand local Dems are a thing and somewhere they’re the same thing.
It doesn’t matter!
Both sides are the same!
We have to sit out every election until the workers rise up and bring about the Revolution!
So what if people die without health care? That’s a small price to pay!
/s
Agreed, if you can live with a genocide in someone else’s country and have to vote for the lesser evil, I can live with your country turning fascist, losing influence and being discarded by your own vassal states.
Anything for greater good with choosing lesser evil, right?
The breaking down of US hegemony is far beneficial to everyone overall than you losing healthcare.
Bet, now you suddenly think that’s non-empathetic, huh bud?
The literal title of this post: vote for people who want to help
, not those who want to line their pockets
In this case it’s saying not to vote for Schumer or Gillibrand in the generals, if they survive a primary.
Oh hey, it’s someone from .ml! /s
The DNC chair said we need candidate like Mamdani both in policy and charisma almost immediately after Mamdani won his primary…
And the only reason he waited that long. Is he won’t put his finger on the scale of any primary
Schumer and other neoliberals don’t like Mamdani, but neoliberals lost the DNC and won’t hang onto their leadership positions unless they get people to turn their nose up during Dem primaries.
Thats why voting in Dem primaries is more important than ever.
Listening to billionaire owned media about when the DNC is on our side, is like selling gold because you keep seeing “cash for gold” places…
he won’t put his finger on the scale of any primary
My brother, I have an amazing deal on a bridge if you’d just jump into my DMs really quick.
Thats why voting in Dem primaries is more important than ever.
If you see a candidate worth voting for then you should vote for them. But never forget that NYC has some of the most byzantine and restrictive voting laws in the country. Worse than Florida. Worse than Texas.
So save the finger-waging at The Voters and reconsider how much Wall Street machine politics keeps a stranglehold on the statewide offices, such that guys like Mamdani are far more the exception than the rule.
Yeah! Voting is difficult so people have lots of excuses to not bother!
Apathy is the biggest factor in disenfranchisement, much as we’d all like to blame “the establishment” for lack of participation.
Voting is difficult so people have lots of excuses
Disenfranchisement is public policy, so people are prohibited from casting their votes.
And Lemmy users are voluntarily consenting to become disenfranchised. They’re doing the billionaires’ work for them.
They’re voluntarily agreeing to stay home on election day, let Trump win, and kill the Palestinian protest movement by giving people new problems to worry about.
If it weren’t for these non voters, Kamala would have won and we’d currently be forcing her to divest from Israel. But instead we have Trump bombing Iran on Netanyahu’s orders and we have to do No Kings instead of No Israel. We’re stretched too thin because of these guys.
At this point I’m not ruling out that Ken Martin has a lemmy account. That account only ever shows up to stan for him.
You have to wonder how many accounts are people trying to drive disengagement with the process as well, then. Cause there’s a hell of a lot more “dont bother participating cause we’re all doomed” commenters than those sucking off the DNC.
I find it amusing that dbzer0 is all “Don’t advocate for electoralism (which we define as voting at all) here, you have the rest of Lemmy to do that” when the ratio is so unbalanced.
Are there even ANY pro-voting instances?
It’s possible. Stanning for DNC leadership seems weirder to me than being blackpilled about democratic participation, though. I don’t agree with either position, but being jaded is at least understandable to me.
I find irrational hope and irrational despair equally easy to understand, but I’m always gonna side with irrational hope over irrational despair.
What I don’t understand is thinking that irrational hope is a billionaire ploy but irrational despair isn’t. Have you seen the world in the last 6 years? The billionaires love despair and hate hope.
I’m on the Wachowskis’ side with thinking that love and hope are inherently revolutionary. All of their movies are about people who believe in hope overthrowing the ruling class. The Matrix, V for Vendetta, Speed Racer…
And you don’t think that’s a problem? That you identify more with people who’d rather do nothing and let everything burn down around you out of spite than do literally anything to help?
It’s not even like they’re saying “This person is the greatest person who ever existed and should lead the world!” They’re just saying “This guy isn’t as bad as you make him out to be, maybe give the process a chance instead of giving up entirely”.
Don’t put words in my mouth. Being jaded is understandable because of the extremely obvious flaws in our democracy and the negligible correlation between what voters want and what they get, and being dismissive of the DNC leadership is equally understandable given the canyon between them and their voters on Israel, money in politics, and the relationship between workers and capital.
I never said burn it all down, and explicitly said I disagree with the blackpilled. Your representation of what I said is so dishonest I’m wondering if you’re an alt account.
Finding out the DNC has an unpaid intern working the Lemmy beat would be so fucking funny.
That the account moderates “A Boring Dystopia” carries levels of irony my mind can barely even grasp.
I don’t believe it because while the Dems are terrible at social media they’d never waste money on Lemmy
That’s the cool thing about unpaid interns…
We’re talking about capitalists, here. They understand opportunity costs are losses.
I’m not sure what that has to do with the use of free labor.
Even Schumer endorsed Mamdani during the election, over that fuckin buffoon Third Party Cuomo.
I do not believe any political party will ever be on my side.
They could be, but not with a two party system. We need proportional representation so smaller parties can actually exist in government.
I don’t think a group of more than about 20 people could be on my side. Though I’ve been kicked out of groups smaller than that so maybe not even then.
Sounds like you need to start a militia and go doom-prep in the woods, then. The political process just isn’t right for you.
Sounds like they’d get kicked out of that, too.
Only if my militia is woodland creatures.
So support people instead. Just because those parties are full of people doesn’t mean you have to go all in if you support a few of them.
The process is what we have, and we’re not going to make it better by refusing to participate in it. At best we’d make things worse and it collapses… and it gets a lot worse. Then maybe we can replace it with something better. If someone worse doesn’t get there first.
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good-enough-for-now, especially if it means millions are going to suffer for the inaction.
Things will get worse and eventually collapse and millions will suffer regardless of my actions. Entropy is a bitch and life is suffering.
And perfect isn’t fighting good. Less bad is fighting worse bad.
Fuck the DNC.
Nah, I love the DNC. I love taxing the rich. I love everyone getting food and healthcare. I love protecting the environment. I love continued democracy.
Fuck the GOP. Every GOP out at all costs.
I wouldn’t vote for a republican even for a dog shit picker upper position!
They’ll just claim it was left by a trans kid and they should’ve used the litter box.
Or claim that there is no dog shit, it’s just a liberal media hoax.
Proof that voting in local elections matter. I constantly hear from the “BoTh SiDeS” group that down ballot voting doesn’t matter and primaries don’t exists.
Liberals gonna lib.
Why would a US senator need to endorse a mayoral candidate I like him and and don’t much care for Chuckles but they’re not really in the same sphere
Mayor of New York City is probably the most powerful mayoral office in the world.
So, he’s still just a city mayor
If NYC were an independent country, it’d still rank among the top 10 GDPs in the world.
If NYC were a state, it’d hold about the 12th highest population, about equal with Virginia.
It’s population is larger than Hong Kong, larger than Laos…almost as large as Switzerland, Austria, Greece.
To say he is “just the mayor of a city” is like saying Eric Clapton is still “just a guitar player”.
He’s still just the Mayor of a city
You’re right. His role as the rapper Mr Cardamom dwarfs any role as "just’ the mayor of a city.
They’re all spineless geriatric leeches. I just wish one of them had an original mandate that they would stand behind, even if I disagree with it. But unfortunately, the voting system doesn’t afford it
There’s literally a picture of Zohran Mamdani in this post
? Talking about senators, literally the only one who seems to be for something, is Bernie.
Schumer did endorse Mamdani in the general, and Mamdani has been a DNC candidate even before he won his DNC Primary Election.
My favorite quote from Mamdani is that he is “a socialist, but not a communist”.
His ties to the shifty DSA aside, it’s clear that the supposed divide between Mamdani and the rest of the DNC is just desperation from anti-DNC advocates trying to rationalize their support of him during the primary.
To be fair, no one you can vote for will not just line their own pockets and do stupid shit as soon as in office. It’s likely a good idea to get rid of the orange troll because no one really wants to live in a civil war - so better vote democrats no matter what. But do not expect it to get much better than it’s now any way.
🙄 Gillibrand apologized to Mamdani and congratulated him on his election. Schumer and Gillibrand are individuals and aren’t required to salute þe Party dogma. Anthony Zenkus’ desperation to build his narrative is paþetic.
Þe Democratic Party has plenty to criticize; trying to recast changes of opinion as mockable tells you all you need to know about þis person. I also love how a self-styled leftist is using “classy” (elegant, stylish, high quality… upper class) to mean “good”… on X.
I don’t think you know what “classy” meant in this context. It’s an insult. When used to describe a person, it’s almost always an insult.
Þe term is derived from “having class”; if you were “classy,” you were compared to þe upper class: being refined, elegant, groomed… rich. When used like þis, it’s being used ironically. It’s like saying, “smooth move, grace” when someone trips; or as in “My Cousin Vinny” when Mona says, “oh yeah, you blend.” It’s clear he doesn’t blend, at all. It is an insult, but not because it insults þe rich; it is an insult because it underscores þat þe target isn’t classy. Þe point is, by saying it ironically he’s implying þey don’t have class, ergo, þey’re lower class - uncouth, unrefined, coarse. Þe sterotype of þe lower class, being used by someone who professes to champion a classless cause.
This was such a reasonable comment I had to upvote it even despite the thorns.
