Finally, the freedom to have sick plane crashes thanks to deregulation 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅💥💥💥
Just to put this into perspective, here’s a visualization of the flight data. The two aircraft were never on a collision course. They slightly violated a 5-mile separation requirement: their closest point of approach was 4.85 miles. The pilot did need to respond to the TCAS alert, but that alert was very conservative.
These conservative warnings exist for a reason, though. That being hundreds of lives at stake. What I think would be more interesting is to hear how often these types of events occurred before and after the layoffs at the FAA
Agreed. The point of a conservative warning is to give plenty of time and opportunity to react without bouncing your passengers off the ceiling.
Fault for the loss of separation seems to be on the controllers. Not all separation incidents are the same, though. This one seems to be rather minor. By my estimation, the encroachment was a maximum of 264 yards, and the duration of that encroachment (without pilot or controller intervention) would have been less than 10 seconds. Too tight, yes. It needs addressed so it doesn’t become a habitual violation that could lead to more severe encroachment by these controllers. But there was no real danger of bodily harm from this encroachment.
Fault for an overly aggressive maneuver is on the pilot. There was a risk of injury from that overly aggressive response. The pilot’s actions elevated a minor, no-risk event to one that risked serious injury to the passengers and crew. But, he was following instructions from a device designed to improve aviation safety, and the nature of the warnings from that device, an over-response is much safer than an under-response. He has to trust his instruments, and his instruments (erroneously) told him to push the nose down, quickly, lest he hit another plane.
TCAS is designed and intended to reduce risk and prevent harm. In this specific incident, though, it seems like the TCAS-RA actually increased the risk of harm, by calling for an immediate action that wasn’t actually necessary to prevent harm. Is there a way to improve TCAS?
I, too, would like to know how often TCAS incidents were recorded before and after the layoffs. Those layoffs definitely harmed aviation safety. But if someone were injured in this incident, I don’t think I could point the finger at the controllers or lack thereof. This particular incident seems to suggest a shortcoming in the TCAS system.
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Because everybody on the plane shit themselves.
Without pilot intervention, the closest they would have come would have been 4.85 nautical miles laterally, and at the same altitude.
With the pilot intervention, the closest they came was 4.85 nautical miles laterally, and 500 feet vertically.
This ain’t no shitpost.
If only there were a device to keep you in your seat when something like this happens
This is very dangerous. Time to remove regulations for collision warning systems on airplanes, so dangerous maneuvers like this don’t happen in the future
Tap for spoiler
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Is gutting the federal government working yet? Is the swamp drained? Is the winning complete? Are my bigoted piece of shit nazi flag flying neighbors satisfied yet?
It’s working for Russia
Uh, what? Something like 80 % of their economy is now government spending.
I meant getting Trump elected to sow discord and chaos in the US has allowed Russia to continue their war while facing fewer repercussions
Exactly. I don’t say those things at work anymore because they are too many of them.
I can’t help wondering if they are remorseful.
One thing I know is people don’t like to be told. I stop correcting them. The more we point out their flaws, the more irrationally they will hold on to the false beliefs
They will instead irrationality believe that it’s working in their favour and be emboldened. They didn’t reach their position by being rational. Don’t let a bully tell you that you deserved it after he punches you in the face.
A fascinating theory I read is that MAGA is making a big deal out of Epstein because it provides an off-ramp that lets them save face.
Legit I’m like "bruh, you’re upset that your billionaire ‘grab em by the pussy’, ‘accidentally’ walking into the miss teen usa changing room, ‘I’d fuck my daughter if she wasn’t my daughter’ president is on a list of billionaire sexual predators? I’m glad that something finally looks like it might stick to him but c’mon guys.
Remind us who cut funding to FAA?
This is Joe Biden s fault. I don’t mean he cut funding or anything like that, I mean he was literally flying the other plane. It was full of woke trans immigrants headed to Texas so Democrats can get more votes while simultaneously rigging the election.
Your response here is an excellent example of shitposting. You are the new moderator. Keep up the shitty work.
Obama was copilot? Smoking crack in the back in his tan suit? With Dijon mustard?
Smoking the mustard and putting crack on the hotdog.
hotdog
why you gotta bring hulk hogan’s skin into this?
Whatcha gonna do brother? WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THE COCAINE, GEAR, TANNING BEDS AND RACISM RUN WILD OVER YOU?!
TCAS warnings initially come up about 90 seconds before a potential collision, and a resolution advisory comes up about 60 seconds before a collision. A resolution advisory is obviously a serious situation, but it’s early enough that the climb or descent commands are really not anything crazy, not anything outside a normal climb or descent. No one should be hitting the ceiling if a tcas resolution is flown properly.
stuff like this is why i’m lowkey terrified of flying also this isn’t a shitpost
Yeah, shitpost needs some better moderation. Shitpost has literally just become post whatever you want. And if that’s what it is, I guess that’s what it is, but the term “shitpost” to me had always been someone coming and derailing serious threads with nonsense opinions, unrelated pics, etc. So silly trolling.
This post is a picture of a tweet about a near mid-air collision. Unless the second plane was just fucking around, shitflying as they say, I don’t know that it qualifies for the low, low bar that is shitposting.
I can assure you some pants were shit on that flight
So you’d rather stick to the ground, where you can’t dive to avoid an oncoming vehicle?
