I’d honeytrap this with a software camera that just plays filth and shock sites on a loop :)
The goal with software like windows is to eventualy take away all control. If you can run unaproved software, you can’t even join the teams call. Then you will see stuff like this.
I own a small USB stick that acts as a camera. But in reality it’s just a HDMI input on the other end. Now beat that with software
Just wait until webcams start cryptographically signing image frames to ensure their authenticity.
Point webcam at a screen, or maybe a white wall with a projector pointing at it
tape, and worst case scenario: a hammer
Think Canon tried that years ago with some SLRs - expecting that tech will be the only thing that proves anything someday. Wonder if it’s panning out.
Wonder if it’s panning out.
Really depends on the lens.
Hehehe
Years ago, I’d laugh at this.
Yet it slowly becomes reality with every passing year. It’s bad enough that we’ve essentially lost pay-to-own in favour of subscription models for a lot of popular software.
On our corp network, the amount of GPOs I’ve had to mangle together just to make Win11 usable is insane. The users are still going to have a fit in October.
This, but it’s not a loop 😏
The real goal is to then charge the user $2.99 to block their camera from being turned on.
Make it an auction
“fuck, I don’t have enough money for park avenue”
Sorry, your camera is now on, better to put your pants on
Do it and you’d see my camera cover
I prefer the classic post it note personally.
I feel that a faulty webcam driver that causes a kernel panic would work best. They turn your camera on and you drop from the call.
All you would see is my camera cover, lol
I think Dell once patented a mechanical cover system for their laptops.
All the laptops I have owned over the last 10 years have a mechanical shutter to cover the camera. None have been Dell.
You willingly own a laptop that can open its own shutter?
I believe they, and pretty much everyone else here, thought you were talking about the mechanical shutter that you have to manually slide over the lens.
That’s not what mechanical means, but I can understand the confusion.
Those are manual shutters. If it’s mechanical, unless you are using a very archaic definition or speaking in a different context it is capable of self movement in some form.
Not that I’d be particularly surprised to find out product marketing on the question is all over the place.
Does your mechanical pencil advance its own lead? Does your mechanical keyboard type on itself?
Yes, in this sense.
Clicking the mechanism converts the manual input to a mechanical or electrical output.
If you pushed the lead down entirely by hand it wouldn’t be a mechanical pencil, which is exactly why you pushing or flipping a plastic cover into place entirely with your own muscle power makes it a manual shutter.
When you type on a mechanical keyboard, what, precisely, do you think is happening? Are you literally outputting a letter by pressing your finger down? For that matter, what do you think a mechanical keyboard does?
Fucking Google it.
I do love having to explain basic terminology to a relatively well educated yet stupendously deaf audience.
Really restores my faith in humanity.
We’re not fucking cooked, and the mental infantilization of the population is not complete.
I’m a mechanical engineer, but what do I know. Just studied that shit for 5 years and worked as one for the past 13.
But then again, I’m from Germany so maybe there is a language barrier between us somehow.
We now know what you mean and you probably also know what the other person meant. All is well.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mechanical
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/manual
You’re welcome for the lesson on the finer semantic details of your secondary language.
Bonus terminology:
“Appeal to authority”: A logical fallacy in which it is claimed that a person’s expertise in a field is proof of a claim itself. This is a disputed fallacy, as there are indeed certain instances where it might applicable, such as a mechanical engineer describing the workings of mechanical systems, but is always a fallacy when they attempt to use their expertise in one field as proof in another.
Mechanical means relating to Japanese mechas
You used to be able to get a mecha for a five cents. Gimme a mecha for a nickel, we’d say. We didn’t have actual mecha (because of the war) so we used jam jar lids instead. Now one time Puddinhead, his name was Gerald Brown but everyone called him puddinhead because he had this hat that looked like a pudding cup. I don’t know where he found it. Maybe he made it, which, in retrospect, was really neat. We were a little too hard on old Puddinhead. Anyway…
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You like looking at the back of a piece of electrical tape?
All you would see is my floor and a pile of wires
My webcam falls off and I just leave it there
tbh I’d be more likely to want to turn it off
You’d get a pious, stating that someone paid 1.99 to turn your camera an. For just 5.99 you can make sure it stays off.
This could also be implemented as a bidding war like eBay.
This is like that libertarian/ancap copypasta.
Yknow one great thing that costs about 1.99 (one time cost)?
Those little plastic slidy bits that cover up the laptop webcam and mic.
It’s weird that people used to be concerened with covering their laptop camera, but people don’t care about their phone camera.
“Most of the time your phone is in your pocket” he says writing on his phone…
They can probably guess your shoe size and leg length using the accelerometer. Also if you’re right or left handed.
You can’t guess correctly someone’s shoe size and leg length using an accelerometer. There are factors that drastically change the results.
Enough data over time I bet you could. Get a couple drop recordings, arm swing, common heights of beds/desks/chairs, you could find it.
Would it be automated or easy? Hell no. But you can do it. We’ve discovered more with less
Everyone’s bodies are all different in unique ways. Also some might have a limp, or crutches, prosthetics, different size feet, wider feet, extremely small feet(while being tall). There would never be enough data. Unless you were there in person measuring.
Well, you have angle of tge thigh and speed and time between strides, giving us stride length assuming their phone is in their pocket, which would be easy to tell. Then you have foot on floor over time and speed, which would give you appoximate shoe length depending on their foot fall. But you could guess that based on axis bounce/force. You could probably guess their weight and gender too.
You could track when people piss.
Samsung health can track some crazy metrics from just the Galaxy watch. I wouldn’t be surprised what else they can accurately estimate. Pic of the data from a recent run.
i really miss pop-up cameras on phones.
good peace of mind knowing the fucker is tucked away inside.
Some laptops come with that built in, or you could use some scotch tape and a little square of paper for free
I used the sticky part of a post-it before I had a laptop with a built in slider
I use a small piece of blue painters tape
love my frameworks mic and camera hardware switches.
One of it’s greatest features.
Fortunately, browsers have safeguards against this sort of thing (activating the camera without user interaction)
…right?
Zuck always has a piece of tape over his camera when you see his laptop. That’s all you need to know.
I saw probably the same photo as you! The article wasn’t even about that, we just noticed it in the photo. I immediately went and taped over my camera.
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Granted he is a higher profile target but he likely has lots of cyber security people going over everything on that machine with a fine tooth comb. And he still has a piece of tape over the camera.
Both my work laptop and personal laptop have mechanical shutters that can only be opened by hand.
They’re both Thinkpads.
They hand those out at conventions too (or you can buy them, I guess). It’s basically just a small sticker that you can just stick over your shutterless camera and now it has a shutter.
The Thinkpads have shutters built in. It’s quite nice.
One of the main motivating factors for me to get a Lenovo.
Mine is a T14 G1. Work supplied a T15 G2. I like them, solid units.
I have both a t14 g1 and g3. With each generation, the keyboard gets more trash. I even tested out my friend’s new recent generation x1 carbon yoga and the keyboard was also bad. Lower travel and didn’t feel as solid.
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I’ve had a few Dell Latitudes, none of them had a shutter 🤔
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Makes sense. I had a E6440, E7470, and 7490. The E6440 was a beast of a machine, and the E7470 fell off a 14 foot ladder and still survived, despite missing a corner… The NVMe drive was barely holding on 😅
Just last week we found a bug in our system in that if an user accepts a meet on pc while also having the phone app open, the meet is opened in both devices, - that alone could end very badly.
Browsers and some operating systems.
It’s a fucking joke and so many of you are being smug with “not me!”
Not me!
Not me!
Half the userbase is on the spectrum, and cannot discern satire from a serious post.
Laddie, the whole Internet is going so to shit, that it’s hard to discern satire from real bullshit.
I just don’t plug a camera in
$4.99 to plug in their camera
Considering the implications for making that happen, that’s hella cheap.
But i thought everyone helicopters during meetings. How else am i supposed to meet my step goal
My camera has a cover 😂😂😂 I hope you like your screens pitch black because it’s the only thing you will see
Shit, I’d pay more than that each time.
Does the person on the other end get a notification or do they just remain oblivious to their boss spying on them?
No usually you do not get an immediate notification, but you can indeed see it by constantly checking you small camera window in the corner of the meeting. But you have to stay focused.
