• @otto@sh.itjust.works
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      2 months ago

      It’s just more bullshit to distract from Elon Musk and his cronies destroying our democracy

        • @stupidcasey@lemmy.world
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          -222 months ago

          A. it’s not we don’t even have any scientific reason to think it’s bad for us.

          B. The whole thing is a distraction from the real issues.

          C. The total amount of plastic can’t go down until we reduce manufacturing.

          D. It reframes environmental issues to the consumer the exact kind of marketing campaign companies have been using for years.

          • A ban on something doesn’t blame the consumer? It simply stops one aspect of unnecessary plastic pollution which has a tiny positive effect.

            Plastic bottles in Germany have a 25 cent deposit that you can earn back by returning them when they are empty. This has significantly reduced plastic pollution for plastic bottles which is a tiny but positive effect.

            Certain colored plastics for plastic bottles are prohibited too because they are not recyclable. A tiny but positive step.

            Once you have hundreds of such steps you have a significant positive leap. The government should ban disposable plastics altogether ideally now but every single ban is putting us a step closer to a world free from plastic.

          • @blakenong@lemmings.world
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            92 months ago

            Wow, where to begin…

            A, we have plenty of evidence to support plastic being bad for humans, and the entire planet.

            B, we can chew gum and walk.

            C, what did you think not manufacturing plastic straws would do? Reduce manufacturing.

            D, if you don’t make it political, then it’s not political. It’s just reducing plastic waste.

            • @stupidcasey@lemmy.world
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              -142 months ago

              A. You have just made a positive assertion that is easily proven and presented no studies, I’m waiting.

              B. we absolutely cannot walk and chew gum at the same time attention is the modern currency.

              C. Removing plastic straws did not reduce plastic manufacturing and it wasn’t supposed to reduce the manufacturing of plastic.

              D. I honestly don’t know what your point had to do with mine? Something about it be political? My point was that it’s simply a way for oil companies and heavy plastic users to reframe it as the every mans problem you know the people who can not stop it.

              • @blakenong@lemmings.world
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                62 months ago

                A, Jfc, it’s 2025. Use a search engine. Even use AI ffs, “why is plastic bad for humans and the environment?” Do you think the earth is flat, too?

                B, you can’t, we can.

                C, I guess if it’s not all or nothing, there’s no point eh?

                D, yes, morons are very susceptible to “the war on <thing>” and make it their entire personality.

                We need to use less disposable plastic products. Look at the ocean, it’s filling with our trash. Most of that is plastic.

              • @Railcar8095@lemm.ee
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                32 months ago

                The fact that you can’t walk and chew gum because you lose focus makes me wonder of you need to stop to breath. It definitely seems you were oxygen deprived for extended periods of time.

                I don’t expect you to understand that.

          • @cannedtuna@lemmy.world
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            32 months ago

            Don’t have any scientific reason other than concern over all of the micro plastics that are now in literally everything living, or the impact production of plastics has on the environment, or the fact that they aren’t biodegradable and just sit somewhere for ages.

            • @stupidcasey@lemmy.world
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              -62 months ago

              You having concerns is not scientific research, scientists having concerns is not scientific research, ask a scientist they will tell you more research is needed, we simply don’t know because we don’t have enough studies it just feels bad or is concerning but there is reason to believe that it is nothing the simple fact is that plastic is inert and we have seen no I’ll effect.

              • @cannedtuna@lemmy.world
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                22 months ago

                I think you’d make a perfect subject for a study on the effects of microplastics on a persons ability to reason. Your dismissive and empty arguments in this thread would give ample evidence to support that a preference for drinking from plastic straws may in fact be harmful to a persons brain over prolonged exposure.

      • @Xanthobilly@lemmy.world
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        92 months ago

        Get your head out of your ass. This is a gift to the oil industry and destroys the environment. There are new biodegradable straws that are 100% as good as plastic and won’t wind up embedded in sea life.

  • @RagingRobot@lemmy.world
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    582 months ago

    Government picking winners.

    This would work itself out over time. No one likes soggy straws. It’s actually caused some innovation. They have straws made from plants now that aren’t too bad.

    • @Nollij@sopuli.xyz
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      152 months ago

      At this point, switching to plastic straws feels like such a reprieve. Can we keep him focused on little annoyances like this? Or making him hysterical that the 7-11 ran out of Cheetos?

  • @Asafum@feddit.nl
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    412 months ago

    These people are the worst fucking scum on the goddamn planet. Petty mother fuckers to the core…

    “Did a Democrat do it? Ok then reverse it.”

    “But sir, this bill enures that oxygen is created so we can breathe.”

    “Fuck you! A DEMOCRAT passed that, reverse it! We’ll make our own identical one and say it was our idea and oxygen never existed before us.”

  • Laser
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    312 months ago

    This is going to be the dude that tells americans to start feeding their plants electrolytes! Idiocracy is almost complete!

    • @ceenote@lemmy.world
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      182 months ago

      At least in idiocracy, the president appointed the smartest guy in the world to solve their problems. Instead, we got Musk.

    • @dhork@lemmy.world
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      122 months ago

      Idiocracy is the only movie that was a satire on its release but became a documentary over time…

      • Laser
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        42 months ago

        Im sure black mirror will have a few episodes that ring true

      • Rhaedas
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        72 months ago

        I’d say that Elondo is toilet water, but toilet water is useful.

  • SeaJ
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    112 months ago

    Fuck paper straws but it is absurd that he is pursuing an EO on them.

    We should either use plant based plastics for them or just not use them at all.

    • Tarquinn2049
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      132 months ago

      Yeah, I’ve used some pretty good cellulose ones, they must cost 5% more to make though, so it’s impossible.

      • SeaJ
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        22 months ago

        My only complaint on some of the ones that I have used is that when they break, they can be pretty sharp. Doesn’t really matter to me because I am an adult and don’t have a habit of cheating on straws. But I could see that being an issue for kids.

        Or just don’t use straws if you don’t have a reason too. I can see when you have a fountain soda whilst on the road but not too often outside of that (yes, I am aware there are medical reasons but that is few and far between for most of us).

    • UnfortunateShort
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      62 months ago

      The answer my friend is pasta. It’s also something to nibble on if you are bored after your drink. Pasta straws are the best

      • SeaJ
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        12 months ago

        I prefer Twizzlers especially if it is in a Dr Pepper.

    • partial_accumen
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      42 months ago

      We should either use plant based plastics for them or just not use them at all.

      I mean, no one is forcing you to use a paper straw if you’d prefer not to use one at all.

    • @asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world
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      12 months ago

      I’ve read that paper straws are lined with plastic, specifically PFAS, since paper will naturally fall apart in water. A thin lining if plastic is technically less plastic, but if it’s PFAS then IMO it’s just worse than a 100℅ plastic straw.

      • SeaJ
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        12 months ago

        I doubt they are lined with plastic because they absolutely do fall apart. They last about five minutes before they start to fall apart. Paper straws are nothing new. My parents grew up with them.

    • @spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world
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      12 months ago

      Yes by far plastic is more common still. I almost never see paper ones.

      And when I do, I throw a shit-fit and hope our god emperor outlaws them. Or maybe I just don’t notice or care.

  • @nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    82 months ago

    I’m glad he’s decided to bypass Congress for this very important And time sensitive issue regarding to our national security

  • Atelopus-zeteki
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    52 months ago

    Betting Pool: Who will win? Straws or the wannabe despot? I’m putting my money on paper straws being stronger. Or is that a Straw Man argument?