• sparky@lemmy.federate.ccA
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    AI may be a useless meme but evidently it’s also a forcing function for reasonable RAM minimums.

  • @atempuser23@lemmy.world
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    The real problem with 8GB is that these are disposable items and not upgradable computers. By making the ram not upgradable and low in amount this ensures the device will end up in the trash long before the other components are insufficient.

    96GB of DDR5 laptop memory is $350. What they charge is unreasonable for ram. Makes an otherwise amazing experience worse than it has to be.

    • @GamingChairModel@lemmy.world
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      96GB of DDR5 laptop memory is $350

      Maybe it’s better to compare LPCAMM2 form factor prices. For that, 64GB is $329. Still not quite the same as adding 16GB for $400, but it’s a better comparison.

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        Thanks for a more apt comparison. I’d imagine Apples price is far less than the retail prices. Even then I’d be happy paying $400 for 64 gb in a m4 mac book. I’d be even happier with a ram slot again.

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      I’d love to know how many 8GB models they ever sold. Part of me always believed that the 8GB model was there so they could advertise a low low price in commercials, but the second you were at the store you’d get upsold to 16GB because sheeit who wants 8? I’m sure some folks still went for the lowest price they could get. I would just love to know how many.

      • @Mongostein@lemmy.ca
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        Enh. I’m still using my 2018 Mac Mini with 8 gigs just fine.

        I’ve been waiting til 16 became the base to upgrade. Maybe this is the year!

      • I don’t have figures but used to work for Apple. They sold a lot.

        I would also like to clarify we were never instructed or had the desire to upsell, in fact I and I assume everybody else would downsell. If you come in for the top of the line and you tell me you’re watching YouTube then I’m down selling you.

    • 8 gigs of ram actually gets you pretty far on these machines. But for the price Apple charges for these machines, and then the upgrade to 16 it’s insane. Thank god they’ve finally bumped up the base ram.

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        Yeah totally agree with this, macOS is way more efficient than Windows, so 8 GB doesn’t feel like utter shit, I would expect it to be similar to Linux with the same amount.

        My main MacBook Pro has 16 GB of RAM so for my usage that never is a problem, but my gf got a M1 MacBook Air with 8 GB and we both use it from time to time, and it is snappy and the RAM is never an issue, even if the machine never goes off lol.

        • It’s definitely not the same because macOS has a lot of eye candy and background processes, especially if you have other apple devices. Still, it’s a lot better than windows

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    Talking of surprise: I was ready to return our not-yet-dispatched MacBook Air (orderer on 20th October) as it only had 8GB and… they updated the product to 16GB! That’s neat, now I get why the delivery time was longer than expected.

  • @errer@lemmy.world
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    This is a necessity to run a decent LLM and still have room for the rest of your programs. Only reason they’re doing it.

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      After all, Apple needs AI working properly on its devices to spy on users

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        I’ve heard a lot of praise from paranoid Linux users and they all like the way Apple intelligence works locally (we talked back when the first informations came through)

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          The claim is that their own hosted cloud computing for AI is also secure and that Apple has no idea/can’t know what it’s computing for you.

          No clue if it’s true, but that is the direction all cloud AI stuff should go.

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            There’s "semantic search"on iPhones. Looks pretty much like Recall on Windows, down to storing the data on the end device.

            • Is it storing it or is it accessing the original content?

              Hey siri summarize finances.txt and it opening the file to summarize is different than it having its own copy stored somewhere.

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    How much did apple for the “surprise” wording?