• @CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
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    23 days ago

    Only if I buy a Tesla.

    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    Yes, you are the villain here.

      • @CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
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        12 days ago

        No. I invoked it to highlight the absurdity of this line of thinking: that it is somehow acceptable to damage the property of a worker who may be completely innocent.

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          It’s absurd because there is no slippery slope. People are not going to start torching Ferraris or burn windows 95 CDs.

          It’s offensive because you are using it to defend an actual Nazi.

          Is it somehow acceptable for Elon to damage the lives of millions of worker who may be completely innocent?

          • @CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
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            11 day ago

            See you keep saying “defending a Nazi”. I keep saying “you’re torching the personal property of people who are not Elon Musk and who likely innocently bought the vehicle”. If you’re just going to talk right past me and start talking about Musk when I’m talking about individual workers, I don’t see how this is a real conversation at all.

            But just to be clear: torching Teslas that Musk already got paid for does not hurt him.

            • @Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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              11 day ago

              Just to be clear: torching Teslas that Musk already got paid for does hurt him.

              • Less people are going to buy vehicles that are often vandalised (by torching or other means) and cost more to insure.

              • Demand for Teslas goes down.

              • Less Teslas are sold.

              • Tesla makes less revenue.

              • Less dividends in the future.

              • Lower share prices now.

              • Musk loses money.


              Trying to claim this isn’t true = defending Nazi interests.

              Individual workers should blame Musk. Not protesters.

              • @CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
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                17 hours ago

                But share prices were already going down?

                You people are going this far just to rationalize the burning of cars. The toll this will have on support for the cause will dwarf the temporary damage to Musk’s assets. This is just blatantly stupid accelerationism.

                Go join an actual cause and be part of something. Stop lashing out like a baby.

                • @Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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                  17 hours ago

                  But share prices were already going down?

                  And with vandalism the share price will go down faster and further.

                  You people are going this far just to rationalize the burning of cars.

                  Who are you calling you people? There is no rationalisation or action on my side. I’m mearly explaining how attacking cars damages Musk.

                  The toll this will have on support for the cause

                  Exactly what cause are you talking about here? You seem to be signed up to protect Musk.

                  will dwarf the temporary damage to Musk’s assets.

                  Why do you think these action and Musks losses are temporary? Swastikas now have a permanent stain.

                  This is just blatantly stupid accelerationism.

                  Excellent. You do get the point. Hit Musk harder and faster.

                  Go join an actual cause and be part of something. Stop lashing out like a baby.

                  Again, I’m only explaining here how these actions damage Musk. Nothing more.