Any explanation / meaning / backstory is more than welcome, or you can just drop it for everyone to try and resolve.

  • @frank@sopuli.xyz
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    1113 days ago

    In Danish we have two different words for the pronoun “his” (or equivalent). In English you say:

    Tom gave Steve his phone.

    Which person’s phone is it? In Danish that would be clear depending if you used sit or hans

    • JackFrostNCola
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      212 days ago

      Im not sure if the example sentence is legitimate or not but its uncomfortable for my brain.

      I probably would have said “Tom gave Steve his phone back” (steve ownership) or “Tom gave his phone to Steve” (tom ownership)

      • @frank@sopuli.xyz
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        412 days ago

        Right, in English you have to rephrase the sentence because the pronoun you need doesn’t exist. There’s just a pronoun for “male person” not one for “subject” or “object” of the sentence.

        That’s why I replied with it to a “what word would you make up?” Question, because that’s what I would bring into English

        • @ulterno@programming.dev
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          11 days ago

          Nice. Now what do you do in case of:

          Larry sold a lot of his stuff. … Tom gave Steve his phone.

          Is there another “his” for that?

          • @frank@sopuli.xyz
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            211 days ago

            Um in Danglish:

            Larry sold a lot of his(hans) stuff. Tom gave Steve his (sin if it’s Tom’s and hans if it’s Steve’s) stuff.

            Just just for the current sentence(s). Like a new subject would “reset” it

            • @ulterno@programming.dev
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              011 days ago

              In the example, I was implying a scenario in which Larry sold Larry’s stuff, which would have included Larry’s phone.
              Tom then gives Larry’s phone to Steve.

              I used ‘stuff’ in the first sentence to prevent revealing ‘phone’ beforehand, in which case it could have become, “Tom gave Steve the phone.”.

      • @frank@sopuli.xyz
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        112 days ago

        Also, for what it’s worth, it feels a lot more natural with mixed genders here to me:

        Steve gave Christina his phone