The problem in cases like this is not the copying, but the ability to bypass DRM. Creating and distributing tools that can do that is illegal in the US due to the DMCA. I think there are similar laws in the EU but I’m not sure.
Bypassing copy protection is not a crime in my country. The DMCA is a joke here and TPB creators knew it. Unfortunately the media companies used their threats of sanction on Sweden if they were not persecuted. Straight up maffia tactics.
Edit: TPB wasn’t really relevant to copy protection but I brought it up because of DMCA. TPB never hosted any copyrighted content and should not have been held liable.
I grew up in a town with a huge standing weekly flea market everyone knew about where everyone knew you were buying stolen stuff, fake IDs, bootlegs, etc. The way I finally convinced my family that TPB wasn’t illegal was by asking them if it was a crime to tell someone where the flea market was.
Actually based on how the law is written, yes you are. And also what you’re saying is irrelevant because telling someone “hey go here to buy a fake ID” is absolutely aiding and abetting.
You’re going to get downvoted because pirates, by and large, feel entitled to other people’s labor for free. I’ve been pirating for two+ decades and I’m fully aware that what I’m doing is wrong. It’d be great if people could stop trying to justify their actions.
Piracy is morally right, we don’t owe them anything.
We see that copyright only matters to them if it is convenient, the latest example is training AI on copyrighted works without licenses. But there are many others.
It is also ironic that copyright was originally created to protect small authors from having a big corporation steal their creation and profit from it. Which is still happening. This is also the reason why originally copyright supposed to last 14 years. Because it was thought that 14 years was long enough time to have monopoly on idea
Only after corporations started bribing politicians they extended it to such ridiculous times and completely changed what copyright really was.
You don’t have time to debate, but you found time to write that comment.
It is clear that there’s no good argument about fighting for profits for the people that are stealing from us and.
Anyone who is in California you should vote YES on proposition 40 and NO for 41 and 42 (Trojan horses that are to block 40, because they are afraid of it so much). Yes it is one time, but will open doors for a federal law in the near future.
The problem in cases like this is not the copying, but the ability to bypass DRM. Creating and distributing tools that can do that is illegal in the US due to the DMCA. I think there are similar laws in the EU but I’m not sure.
Bypassing copy protection is not a crime in my country. The DMCA is a joke here and TPB creators knew it. Unfortunately the media companies used their threats of sanction on Sweden if they were not persecuted. Straight up maffia tactics.
Edit: TPB wasn’t really relevant to copy protection but I brought it up because of DMCA. TPB never hosted any copyrighted content and should not have been held liable.
I grew up in a town with a huge standing weekly flea market everyone knew about where everyone knew you were buying stolen stuff, fake IDs, bootlegs, etc. The way I finally convinced my family that TPB wasn’t illegal was by asking them if it was a crime to tell someone where the flea market was.
The funny part is if you could buy fake IDs then technically it was a crime to tell them where the flea market was.
Knowing where to commit a crime is not illegal.
Aiding and abetting is though my dude.
Telling someone how to do a thing isn’t aiding and abetting.
If I tell you that you can kill someone by shoving them off the Brooklyn Bridge, I’m not potentially taking part in a homicide.
Actually based on how the law is written, yes you are. And also what you’re saying is irrelevant because telling someone “hey go here to buy a fake ID” is absolutely aiding and abetting.
No, drm of that kind is also illegal
DRM of what kind is illegal where?
Sweden, drm that attempts to disallow copying media for personal use
You’re going to get downvoted because pirates, by and large, feel entitled to other people’s labor for free. I’ve been pirating for two+ decades and I’m fully aware that what I’m doing is wrong. It’d be great if people could stop trying to justify their actions.
Think of the poor billionaires!
Piracy is morally right, we don’t owe them anything.
We see that copyright only matters to them if it is convenient, the latest example is training AI on copyrighted works without licenses. But there are many others.
It is also ironic that copyright was originally created to protect small authors from having a big corporation steal their creation and profit from it. Which is still happening. This is also the reason why originally copyright supposed to last 14 years. Because it was thought that 14 years was long enough time to have monopoly on idea
Only after corporations started bribing politicians they extended it to such ridiculous times and completely changed what copyright really was.
I’ll just go ahead and downvote you and move on. Not really interested in debating this right now.
LOL, but interested enough to respond.
You don’t have time to debate, but you found time to write that comment.
It is clear that there’s no good argument about fighting for profits for the people that are stealing from us and.
Anyone who is in California you should vote YES on proposition 40 and NO for 41 and 42 (Trojan horses that are to block 40, because they are afraid of it so much). Yes it is one time, but will open doors for a federal law in the near future.