To be fair, nfts and vr were never forced on consumers quite like AI is. VR is incredible for certain types of gaming. NFTs are also incredible too. They allow you to quickly identify morons with disposable income.
NFTs are also incredible too.
You had me in the first half, ngl
I upvoted the comment while reading it, then removed the upvote, then put it back.
Correct, the only idiotic thing about VR is buying your hardware from Mark Zuckerberg. As the folks in the VR community here are already aware, I got my Steam Frame the other day and basically the only reason I’ve had to take it off my face since then is because the thing has a finite battery life.
It’s funny how people were comparing the Frame to Quest, saying it’s DOA because of the price, niche device only for a few enthusiasts.
Meanwhile, the Frame is flying off the shelves and the waitlist seems to be twice as long as the number of the units available. :(
It turns out there really is a market for a standalone capable wireless headset provided that it actually respects your privacy.
I wish it was flying. I managed to get on the reservation list (not waitlist) and two weeks later I am still waiting for my turn to even order one. Valve seems completely overwhelmed with the demand. Good for them I guess but come on, I haaaate waiting.
It’s a good product that doesn’t request you to sell your soul to use it. It’s definitely expensive but for people who have that money and are into VR it’s the best thing ever.
It also has the valve factor. In a landscape that consumer electronics are anti consumer, it’s more alluring to buy something you might not need if it’s not enshitified.
For example, I don’t really need a steam controller but boy do I want one.
I don’t want to sound like too much of a fanboy, but I’ve owned every first-party device of theirs so far, even the old physical Steam Link, the OG Controller, and the Vive which I count as theirs, and they’ve consistently hit the sweet spot of what I want out of hardware:
No hostility to the user; very tinkerer friendly; a good balance of build quality, ergonomics, and features without going into diminishing returns; long-lasting software support (even the market failure of the Steam Link has recent firmware updates); forwarding wider Linux and gaming software ecosystems; etc.
At this point, I’m just grabbing them if I have even an occasional use case for them, and I don’t regret it one bit. My Frame comes in tomorrow, and I’m very excited.
I found a Meta Quest 2 at a thrift store for 20 bucks. It needed a new face cushion so I ordered one online and a Meta Quest 3S showed up instead.
So, like, hopefully one day they’ll be CFW for it.
They shipped a whole ass headset when you ordered a face cushion? Damn dude, nice
All the joy of Steam, pumped directly into my eyeballs? Yes, please.
And all the joy of also being a small Linux computer, still with the eyeballs thing. Hit “desktop” in the hotbar on the bottom and you’re looking at a KDE environment.
Most programs can also be opened into a separate full-screen styled floating window you can stick wherever in virtual space, independent of the base desktop.
I played an MMO in 2002. People made financial transactions for things in a digital universe. That MMO shut down and the servers wiped around the time Bored Ape shit started. Made me laugh.
But then again, Steve Bannon once made a living selling WoW gold. Shit is wild.
That VR Rogue Squadron game was some peak shit ngl
Notably VR also generally wasn’t the main pitch. It was just seen as axillary. The reason they promoted it as the next big thing, was the “”“metaverse”“”. Definitions varied, but it was generally a social media platform owned by the seller, and/or was virtual real estate.
The metaverse was an unregulated digital daycare centre for American boys aged 6-13.
I always thought it could be useful to use NFT as a proof of ownership in a software, for example you buy a game you get an NFT that proves your ownership, down the line you sell the game to someone else, you handover the NFT and bam you are no longer the owner. But software companies won’t use that as it would create a resale value and THEY want to sell new games not le YOU sell your games.
I’ve thought about this to. I think that is the best use for them, the problem is it would require an internet connection to check the blockchain and authenticate that you still own it or it doesn’t work so it’s not ideal.
Yeah, I honestly don’t know of any tech that has been pushed so hard. NFTs were never something large companies were interested or invested in, and VR was always a niche product. I find AI useful for certain things, but I hope this bubble bursts as soon as possible…
Your Reddit account had a NFT wallet for avatar cosmetics for a while
did they get rid of it?
Yes. Because it could be gifted to others who could then use it however they liked, some governments realized that it could fall under commercial regulation so Reddit got rid of it in a flash.
VR and AR both have massive unrealised potential. It just seems the tech isn’t quite there to break through just yet, especially for AR.
AR has so many unsolvable privacy issues it’s wild …
It’s solvable if you take surveillance capitalism out of the equation, just as Valve are doing. AR with Meta behind it will never be something that is socially acceptable since their whole business model is selling out the user and everyone around them. With a company like Valve which has a pretty good track record regarding privacy (a.k.a the only things transferred regarding usage are what games you play to make store recommendations fit your taste and bug reports if you approve them) i can see a wider adoption taking place.
I don’t think that’s true, your personal privacy as the owner of the device is one thing, everyone else’s right to not be continuously photographed is another. Having Valve operate it over meta doesn’t solve that. Also, what happens when Gabe does and the investment bank that buys it decides they want to sell everyone data to maximise profit?
We’ve mostly been looking in to how it can be utilized in a production environment with detailed machine stats at a glance, live setpoints without having to be near the control panel, aids for maintenance…that sort of things
I think the second panel is not referring to VR in general but rather Metaverse specifically.
What you mean Mark Zuckerberg’s unlicensed digital daycare scheme?
I stole an NFT once, that was kind of cool.
Same I saw an NFT at a museum in Amsterdam so I took a photo of it so I could steal it.
Here it is:
On TV they were talking about how you can buy NFTs at an event, the reporter held up a QR code to show it. I took a picture of that and got the NFT without paying the entrance fee or $5 QR code cost.
But I lost it because I forgot where it was stored.
Came here to say this: I get ton of enjoyment out of racing in VR. The rests is capitalism at its worst.
Favorite VR racing game? I’ve got a couple kits but I’ve never played a racing game in VR!
Dirt Rally 2. VR turned me into a much better driver of racing games. Seeing around corners is amazing. Same for flight simulation games. My landings are so smooth when i can look out the window and then quickly check airspeed on my gauges.
zuck did immeasurable harm to vr by trying to dominate the field. utter decimation of expectations. he made a fool out of all of it.
i like what i’ve seen about the steam frame so far and look forward to having one hopefully. never, not once, not ever, shall i pressure anyone else into it; it’s a personal interest, personal to ME and others who choose to adopt it.
Gee, it’s almost like pressuring people into something makes it super not enjoyable for anyone. Anywho, I’m off to Google something only to scroll past the AI generated response I didn’t ask for and can’t disable.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/-ai-overview/ this one does a great job on firefox and it’s various forks.
I still can’t believe people bought those stupid monkey digital photos
I met someone once who had “invested” in these. Like, thousands of pounds. He thought he was super clever, talked down to us because we were so far out of the loop. I do wonder what happened to him. Poor guy.
he learned nothing and is now chasing AI stonks
the only one chasing it is JENSEN.
I still don’t understand the part where some got ‘stolen’ and were held hostage…
They were held in a poorly designed browser-based crypto wallet that only weirdos know how to use, so when normies wanted in on the get rich quick scheme, they would easily get confused and authorize third parties full access to the wallet.
If this is the future, yes, please leave me behind.
This is the future you don’t want to be left behind do you?
To be left behind is nothing someone should be afraid.
Actually, can they just leave me alone?
I’m sure they have an app for that.
Oh boy don’t start me on cr’apps. It’s insane how even working at a grocery store requires an andriod or ios. It would be one thing if they provided you a phone or whatever like they did when I worked in JcPenis. I can’t wait to get a holiday job and then ask how do I install that on my linux phone.
To be fair, crypto only enabled scams, NFTs imploded because of how useless they are and the metaverse seems like a dystopia to most people. AI on the other hand has changed the way I do my job significantly. It’s not just a promise, it’s a genuinely powerful tool.
a genuinely powerful tool.
As is a hammer. The issue is when you treat the solution to every problem as a nail.
LLMs are also great scam enablers.
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“Guns don’t kill people, people do” level of fallacy. Gubs enable people to do it, as do LLMs enable companies to dial up the spam abf scams. Companies haven’t changed, LLM are the change and largely not to the better.
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VR is cool and the new meta glasses that are basically a vr headset in a glasses form factor is the direction that will make it far better. Too bad it’s all ruined because it’s a meta product and they insist you have an account for what is undoubtedly the most aggressive data collection in the entire world
Meta are dragging more open competitors along with them though, and showing that a market exists (but not the 80bn Metaverse Zuck promised).
That’s a fantastic caricature of Zuckerberg.
The future is not defined by products. They’re just along for the ride, all of them expendable, most of them useless.
I hate the purported FOMO those bastards always promote to wide-eyed numbskulls wanting to be on the cutting edge of anything. Or mobsters wanting to get their money either laundered or splurge onto the most absurd.
ive been in the back of the line my entire life, so not a big thing
Poker in VR is social and fun. The rhythm games like Beat Saber and Pistol whip are pretty cool too.
Even if every developer has a max subscription and uses it to mostly or completely automate their coding activities…how many people is that? A few hundred thousand? Where are these supposed revenues going to come from?
Don’t you worry! AI is gonna think of something…/s
Not arguing your point, but a few hundred thousand…?
If you’re going to be making an argument, at least get the most basic of your facts right.
Globally there are about 40-50 million software engineers. A hell of a lot more than a few hundred thousand. 1/10th of that is in the U.S.
I was guessing, sure, but apparently so were you:
https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/devecosystem-data-playground/
Even if the numbers are what you’re saying they are…and the same number of full-time developers transition to become full-time prompters (doubtful), and every one of them buys a $100 a month subscription that’s only 60 some odd billion a year. They’re projecting revenues to grow into the trillions per year. Literally how?
My clients have accountants, pms, service dept using claude too. for what I do not know. Having said that, I agree I am not sure how this money pit will make money. the plan seems to be nvidia to keep dumping money into ai companies and then the ai companies from nvidia…
It’s painfully obvious to me as a (reluctant) daily user of these things that most people will have no use for it.
Maybe there are some people for whom the barrier to entry for software development was that they didn’t want to learn a programming language but were otherwise very technical and wanted to create software, but that seems like it’s a small amount of people.
Aside from the coding itself, developing software with Claude has all of the same problems developing software without it had.
There are also new risks to developing software with it, because among other things it further siloes developers (into teams of one + chatbot).
I’m also a reluctant user as well. I just got my degree and wanted to change careers. Am now like should I put experience with claude code in my resume or not lol. Its a weird time. Id rather do everything by hand but boss wants things fast.
I don’t think people have figured out yet that the coding was not the hard part of most software development. Maybe it is when you’re really junior or unimaginative, but it it’s more about communication issues, building the “right thing”, testing, etc. etc. forever and Claude hasn’t solved much or any of that (and has made some of it worse).
At least VR is great for porn
I tried it once, in the early times. They hadn’t figured out the scaling at all. Lady was supposed to come sit in your face.
She didn’t get closer, she got bigger. Much bigger.
Would be phenomenal for the giantess crowd. Scared me off for life.
Edit : nobody press the arrows now leave it there
