Oprah.
That cunt gave the anti vaccine idiots a platform and two charlatans a stage.
Fuck Oprah, fuck “dr.” Phil and especially fuck dr. Oz!
Oh and The Apprentice
plus she wasnt she predator adjacent?
certainly looks like it, probably had a qouta to meet
Oprah was always shit for losers
She has such a bullshit rags to riches story that immediately falls apart because she’s a class traitor. She gave Oz a platform which has a direct through line to people like RFK/Joe Rogan. I’d argue she had a direct hand in the large movement of housewives that don’t believe in western medicine because she sells snake oil just like Oz and Phil.
she was just jerry springer for liberals
Anything with a laugh track
If there was a live audience that makes more acceptable for me, I just think of it like a stage play.
Watching Friends without the laugh track Is fucking surreal. There’s so much dead time. So many frames of actors just staring at each other lol
Married with Children is really hilarious for this because the live audience would just go nuts when the main cast would first appear in an episode. Especially Ed O’Neil and Christina Applegate. So many scenes where they come through a door and then just stand there for 30+ seconds holding a pose and making cute faces.
Scrolling through this, a few thoughts come to mind:
- I forgot how deep into the decade Friends went, and it was definitely well past its sell-by date several seasons before it ended.
- Will & Grace probably best fits as a show that aged poorly, though it was groundbreaking in putting gay characters front and center at all.
- As shows that won’t be remembered as fondly because they’re cringey relics of their era, it’s a dead heat between Sex and the City and Entourage. Entourage is worse, but I think contemporary viewers already knew that.
- Honorable mention to Joss Whedon and Ricky Gervais personally making their classic shows a lot harder to enjoy.
I forgot why I must hate Ricky Gervais.
He makes you regret sharing his views, I think, but I’m a little fuzzy on him myself; he was relevant for a hot second.
I feel like That 70’s Show would apply here… maybe not as poorly aged as some of the others mentioned but definitely in the running
I can confirm I re watched it two years ago
The Dollhouse.
A bunch of hyper-sexualized women held in coffins against their will in a state of childlike innocence. Intermittently, they have personalities downloaded into them, using computer technology, making them Alpha-powered super-assassins.
When one of them gets too woke, she is suppressed, coerced, and gaslit into buying back into the fascist agenda of the faceless corporation running the Dollhouse.
It’s just called Dollhouse
They also have men not just women.
And it’s basically like Westworld except they have more personalities vs just western.
Its actually a very good show and is anti capitalist/ rich crazies
yes, thank you. OP really delivered a bad-faith description of the show. you’ve represented it more accurately.
Drawn Together. - _-
The ‘you’re fired’ show starring donny dump.
NBC Nightly News
I tried rewatching How I Met Your Mother and couldn’t get more than a few episodes in because I was so bored. I’m sure my getting older is partly to blame (not as engaged by the unrealistic exploits of some mid 20-somethings), but also Friends-style comedy feels outdated now.
I tried watching it for the first time like 5 years ago because of all the memes and to understand why people kept mentioning it and I couldn’t last one episode.
Glee has gotta be up there right?
I dunno… Glee established itself from episode 1 to be about terrible people doing and saying terrible things. I think they hold true to that premise even moreso today.
Big Bang Theory on the other hand kept pretending their protagonist was a good person just doing “geeky” things. That aged poorly for sure.
Big Bang Theory rapidly became a show about making fun of geeks and nerds
Some friend and I were discussing how poorly 24 has aged, but also how different the world views its subject matter now.
Loved it as a kid and now see it as propaganda to normalize government surveillance
I’ve tried to re-watch Sex and the City but its impossible. I loved it back in the day.
Also the West Wing - I’m sure its still good but the current state of politics makes it look like satire.
West Wing is still amazing. It continues to upset when compared to reality.
but the jackal?
There are exceptions to every rule.
i also love it (obv), but the last watch thru i found a lot more cringe than i remembered.
The West Wing is a fantasy show about how you wish politics worked. Then we got Veep, which is how we thought politics really worked. Now we realize Veep was also a fantasy.
Veep still holds.
It ends with
spoiler
___the VP being a racist idiot promoting Christian math vs. the bad Muslim one who’s married his own sister. The president gets elected by giving Tibet back to China and banning same-sex marriage. The last thing we hear from her is “Shalom, David! So what did the Palestinians do this time?”. I mean… can it be any more perfect?
Not quite 2000s rather early 2010s, but House of Cards has to be up there.
The 1990 House of Cards is the one that deserves to be remembered.
1990 House of Cards
I haven’t seen this, but as far as politics go, I think West Wing is probably on list of Aged Poorly in how massively naive it was about American politics; whereas as Veep is chef’s kiss.
naive is quite generous, they knew exactly what they were doing
West Wing is competency porn.
Like Star Trek.
Cops. To see how they just pummel people to the ground or pull their guns for the smallest of things is unsettling to watch. Also, the treatment of female officers.
The progression of COPS was really wild. It technically started in 1989 but the early episodes were a pretty far departure from the version you’re correctly calling out. They were a lot more visceral - I remember one episode where the officers showed up to a suicide. The guy used a shotgun in a pickup truck and the back windshield was blown out with blood and brains like dripping from it, and this is what the cameraman zooms in on for a solid 30 seconds.
It was just a lot more gritty and unrefined. That’s the interesting part for me, this show changed to the version you described where they only showed DV and beating up crackheads. They chose that; they went in that direction on purpose.
The one that always stuck with me was when they harassed a dude just walking down the street because he was in drag. But it was in, like, Plano, TX or something so that made it “suspicious.”
Another one I can’t remember was on COPS or just some bodycam footage of a gay teen who was beaten by his parents and kicked out getting arrested becsuse they claimed he assaulted them; despite being the only one completely battered and bruised and the neighbors defending the kid having witnessed him getting beaten by his father.
I guess when I responded to the original question, I was thinking about the 2000’s era COPS show and how it seemed to celebrate violence against others. So, by current standards, the old episodes really don’t hold up well in that it’s really not OK to be promoting this.
I’ve noticed similar changes to other police drama shows, like NCIS vs something like Tracker. In NCIS, the bad guy is usually taken down in a shootout. In newer shows, like Tracker, most of the time the bad guy is arrested. Hopefully this is a reflection on society changing.
