I think the details are pretty telling: about getting recruits to say racial slurs, admit hatred for Jewish people, and adoration for Hitler. Right on the first meeting. Which an NDA to “protect themselves”. NDAs are illegal if they hide illegal activity.
I mean. Ish? I guess when I hear about a hate group, I expect them to do that kind of stuff. Kind of comes with the territory.
I was always more interested in how the recruits get to that point, because I’ve met a lot of people over the years, and the number of shitty people in this world is surprisingly small. Very few people are true pieces of shit. I wouldn’t expect any significant number of people to join this type of group naturally…so why do they?
Personally, I’ve been exploring this topic pretty extensively since gamergate, which laid out a pretty clear blueprint of preying on lonely young men and offering them community and social belonging, while slowly converting them into racist shitheads. Then send them out into the world like those door to door Jesus salesmen, have the world call them racist shitheads, and lovebomb them into staying loyal.
That seems like a much more interesting analysis, compared to such, uh, ‘shocking’ revelations like “this hate group makes recruits say slurs”.
Heck, even some cursory analysis of the reasons behind the rituals would be nice. It’s like how the pride boys initiation involves naming breakfast cereals while being beaten. On the surface, that’s just kind of ridiculous, but there’s psychological reasoning behind it. To me, the why is much more interesting than the how, and the why shows you how to solve the problem. The how is just…meh.
What you are looking for is a psychology study not a newspaper article though, to be fair. Worth scanning Google scholar as i am sure there is decent research done on these questions and extremism.
There is, that’s my point. I have dug for it on my own initiative. The news is meant to do things and synthesize knowledge into decent reporting for other people.
This is here is some tier one surface level shit. They sent it two dudes with fake mustaches. Great. Now, maybe they should take some time to think about it, tier two. Data is great, data + brainpower is a hypothesis and after that, if they test it out, their reporting goes to tier three. Spend some time on the prose and that’s how you get pulitzers.
I think the details are pretty telling: about getting recruits to say racial slurs, admit hatred for Jewish people, and adoration for Hitler. Right on the first meeting. Which an NDA to “protect themselves”. NDAs are illegal if they hide illegal activity.
I mean. Ish? I guess when I hear about a hate group, I expect them to do that kind of stuff. Kind of comes with the territory.
I was always more interested in how the recruits get to that point, because I’ve met a lot of people over the years, and the number of shitty people in this world is surprisingly small. Very few people are true pieces of shit. I wouldn’t expect any significant number of people to join this type of group naturally…so why do they?
Personally, I’ve been exploring this topic pretty extensively since gamergate, which laid out a pretty clear blueprint of preying on lonely young men and offering them community and social belonging, while slowly converting them into racist shitheads. Then send them out into the world like those door to door Jesus salesmen, have the world call them racist shitheads, and lovebomb them into staying loyal.
That seems like a much more interesting analysis, compared to such, uh, ‘shocking’ revelations like “this hate group makes recruits say slurs”.
Heck, even some cursory analysis of the reasons behind the rituals would be nice. It’s like how the pride boys initiation involves naming breakfast cereals while being beaten. On the surface, that’s just kind of ridiculous, but there’s psychological reasoning behind it. To me, the why is much more interesting than the how, and the why shows you how to solve the problem. The how is just…meh.
What you are looking for is a psychology study not a newspaper article though, to be fair. Worth scanning Google scholar as i am sure there is decent research done on these questions and extremism.
There is, that’s my point. I have dug for it on my own initiative. The news is meant to do things and synthesize knowledge into decent reporting for other people.
This is here is some tier one surface level shit. They sent it two dudes with fake mustaches. Great. Now, maybe they should take some time to think about it, tier two. Data is great, data + brainpower is a hypothesis and after that, if they test it out, their reporting goes to tier three. Spend some time on the prose and that’s how you get pulitzers.
Idk man. They could have done so much more