I get ur concern about bad cop abusing authorit, cops who stalk people using state databases should be fired and prosecuted, but there a major difference between boycotting a technology entirely and putting better safety measure on it. People dont ban police databases, dispatch systems, or traffic cameras just because a bad cop might misuse them. Boycotting Flock ignores how effective it is at solving realtime hit and runs, violent crimes, and stolen vehicle cases,
Plus, mass surveillance isn’t a problem for regular joes or working class people or non criminal, it’s a problem for the rich and powerful and criminal. I don’t know why we’re doing their dirty work by boycotting it.
i just dont value privacy to a point of hating system like flock, its for crime fighting and im not like important person, so why would i care if people know where i go and my routine, unless the goverment start robbing me than i might change my stand but i trust the goverment enough to not having problem with it
Mass surveillance a problem for the rich and powerful? What? You buy enough Trump coin and the president will pardon you. No biggie.
Meanwhile in a country that’s branding being against fascism as a crime or even terrorism you could have very serious consequences for just holding up the wrong poster at a demonstration.
Your arguments feel like you haven’t been watching the news for the last 15 years. In the past people would warn about mass surveillance and it always had a theoretical feel to it and was easy to dismiss. Then Snowden came along and then Trump II and shit has gotten very real.
mass surveillance isn’t a problem for regular joes
OK, why don’t you post your email and password here. While your at it, how bout your icloud or google storage accounts (or similar). You have nothing to hide, right? It shouldn’t be an issue for the masses here to surveil your accounts for you. You know, just to make sure your not doing anything shady.
Why treat the public and the government as identical? The government operates under professional standards and official accountability. It’s like saying that because I trust a doctor to perform surgery, I should let anyone cut into my body
I get what you’re trying to do, you’re trying to show how uncomfortable it feels to lose privacy. But here’s see it: the masses can’t be held accountable if someone misuses your data. How would you even track down who abused the information once everyone has access to it?
Plus, being forced to hand over your personal life alone while everyone else stays hidden isn’t the same as a universal system where everyone operates under the exact same standard rules.
Hey heres the fun thing about your argument that they will be more responsible than the public. Flock and Axxon and all the rest of those companies that you hold so much trust in…they arent the government. They aren’t even regulated by the government. They are a private company with people just like you and me working there, with unfettered access to your data. They have no accountability and no oversight. They are a FOR PROFIT business that will do anything they can to MAKE PROFIT. But you keep licking that boot there.
I don’t think any business can be completely unregulated. Does that change the fact that private companies still have to operate under professional standards and official accountability? Plus, saying people who work for a private company are ‘just like you and me’ (implying they act like the general masses) is a stretch. People who work in government are also just regular human beings. Since private companies are in it for profit, isn’t it in their best interest to avoid shady practices? Doing illegal things would simply destroy their own business
I get ur concern about bad cop abusing authorit, cops who stalk people using state databases should be fired and prosecuted, but there a major difference between boycotting a technology entirely and putting better safety measure on it. People dont ban police databases, dispatch systems, or traffic cameras just because a bad cop might misuse them. Boycotting Flock ignores how effective it is at solving realtime hit and runs, violent crimes, and stolen vehicle cases,
Plus, mass surveillance isn’t a problem for regular joes or working class people or non criminal, it’s a problem for the rich and powerful and criminal. I don’t know why we’re doing their dirty work by boycotting it.
Hard to tell if you’re a plant or an ignoramus
2 hour old account and these 3 comments are all it has.
because i just learn about lemmy from googling about reddit alternative, like yesterday and i just made an account like hours ago
i just dont value privacy to a point of hating system like flock, its for crime fighting and im not like important person, so why would i care if people know where i go and my routine, unless the goverment start robbing me than i might change my stand but i trust the goverment enough to not having problem with it
Mass surveillance a problem for the rich and powerful? What? You buy enough Trump coin and the president will pardon you. No biggie.
Meanwhile in a country that’s branding being against fascism as a crime or even terrorism you could have very serious consequences for just holding up the wrong poster at a demonstration.
Your arguments feel like you haven’t been watching the news for the last 15 years. In the past people would warn about mass surveillance and it always had a theoretical feel to it and was easy to dismiss. Then Snowden came along and then Trump II and shit has gotten very real.
i dont think they care about the goverment rather than their activity is being use against them by their rival / blackmail
OK, why don’t you post your email and password here. While your at it, how bout your icloud or google storage accounts (or similar). You have nothing to hide, right? It shouldn’t be an issue for the masses here to surveil your accounts for you. You know, just to make sure your not doing anything shady.
Why treat the public and the government as identical? The government operates under professional standards and official accountability. It’s like saying that because I trust a doctor to perform surgery, I should let anyone cut into my body
I get what you’re trying to do, you’re trying to show how uncomfortable it feels to lose privacy. But here’s see it: the masses can’t be held accountable if someone misuses your data. How would you even track down who abused the information once everyone has access to it?
Plus, being forced to hand over your personal life alone while everyone else stays hidden isn’t the same as a universal system where everyone operates under the exact same standard rules.
Hey heres the fun thing about your argument that they will be more responsible than the public. Flock and Axxon and all the rest of those companies that you hold so much trust in…they arent the government. They aren’t even regulated by the government. They are a private company with people just like you and me working there, with unfettered access to your data. They have no accountability and no oversight. They are a FOR PROFIT business that will do anything they can to MAKE PROFIT. But you keep licking that boot there.
I don’t think any business can be completely unregulated. Does that change the fact that private companies still have to operate under professional standards and official accountability? Plus, saying people who work for a private company are ‘just like you and me’ (implying they act like the general masses) is a stretch. People who work in government are also just regular human beings. Since private companies are in it for profit, isn’t it in their best interest to avoid shady practices? Doing illegal things would simply destroy their own business
OK, im done feeding the troll. Im half convinced your just an ai script anyways.
So every time someone has a different perspective than you, you just dismiss them as an AI script? Might be time to open your mind a little bit.