Eneloops would only last about 3 weeks. And disposable last 2 months. This door is used a lot and since it has Zwave and a door open sensor it sends info on every open.
Bonus, since it can handle the lipo AA batteries that put out 1.8v and it gives the motor more oomph I made the battery pack give 7.2v and it never sticks anymore.
This is a garage-door so its not critical access but is used a lot.
KmAhs
Mfer do you mean Ahs?
No kilomilliamp silly
Of course! How could I have been so stupid…🤦♂️
Should be Wh anyway.
imagine having a door/lock that requires power…
It’s pretty convenient actually
Yeah, seems like it /s
I dunno what’s wrong with their lock, but I use eneloops on my lock and I swap the batteries probably 2-3 times a year
I have a similar one and can still use a key…
Yea, it is nice being able to check if you locked the door from bed. Definition of luxury, but I didn’t buy this one it was a gift.
Ok, you get a pass from my “or just use a damn normal lock” dad’s finger wagging 😂
I was super anti smart locks until I left my garage open and doors unlocked for an entire weekend because I’m forgetful. With smart doors and locks that doesn’t happen and, possibly a controversial take, doors being closed and locked by reputable smart devices is more secure than them standing open. Most crimes are those of opportunity, and a thief is just gonna try the door and break a window when it doesn’t open if they’re willing to go that far.
Imagine being locked out of your house because you forgot to bring keys with you.
Like, I’m sorry if you disagree with this, but holy shit, having electric locks on your doors where you can get into your house based off a fingerprint or a code is a fucking game changer.
I have two on my doors, one on the front, one on the back, and I installed them at a week or two apart, so if one of them starts complaining that the battery is low, the other one’s still good. If one of them goes dead while I’m on vacation, the other one’s good.
Not to mention that you can unlock the door from your phone in case somebody comes over unexpectedly, or if you have a friend coming in from out of town and you’re going to be at work when they arrive, you can create a code for them to unlock your front door and come in while you’re not even there.
Plus they still have key locks that I can use if the batteries are completely dead and they can be powered by a 9 volt battery in case I don’t have the key with me.
They’re freaking awesome and I am glad they exist.
You can’t lock yourself out of the house with a deadbolt, they require the key to lock
But you can lock the handle and leave without keys.
You can leave the handle unlocked, and just use the deadbolt this way.
You can leave the handle unlocked, and just use the deadbolt this way.
This is how I have locked my house for the last like 100 years without a smart deadbolt.
Imagine not having a lockpick kit on you to just let yourself in
Imagine having keys so you can let yourself in when you forget your lockpick kit.
Yeah and it makes it pathetically easy to break into your house. Just search online for some of these “security locks using fingerprints”. Its even easier to break into sometimes than a regular shitty lock.
Unless you’ve got a steel reinforced frame bolted into the foundation backing your steel reinforced door, a strong leg and a sturdy boot will get through practically anything you can buy at a hardware store, and a crowbar will take care of the rest.
Electronic mechanisms are more prone to people being able to be able to access areas without evidence of tampering using simple scripts from the internet, whereas lockpicking is not employed by most burglars. (And as stated previously, level of commitment is greater when destruction is involved, which deters most.)
Having a noisy break-in also means you are more capable of responding if the need arises.
If all you care about is deterrence, just own a shotgun and have a loud dog at home.
So does me forgetting to lock the door.
I once left my garage doors open all weekend with thousands of dollars of tools in it, along with my motorcycle with the key in it. My garage at the time was quite visible from a very busy street. I got lucky and nothing was stolen. My garage doors are smart now, so that doesn’t happen any more. Sure, someone could hack my home assistant server and open the garage, but that’s way less likely than my continued pattern of forgetfulness.
Based on that logic, my house also has smart locks now that automatically lock when I leave. I will say that they aren’t cheapo who-knows fingerprint locks, they’re made by a real company and just have a keypad with a lengthy entry code. The only added vulnerabilities should be my home assistant server and the entry code.
I can head out for a walk without bringing my keys with me. Kids can open the door while I’m grabbing the groceries or other stuff. Can provide a temporary code for someone to check on it while I’m out. Family can have a code for emergencies, or if they need to watch the kids.
It’s hella convenient actually.
It’s the best. We have auto locking deadbolts that lock themselves after a period of time. Each family member has their own code to get in and it has a normal key hole if you want.
Sounds amazing. I’ll know if I didn’t lock the door.
Well done, and I’m surprised at all the technophobes in a 3d printing community.
Yea its weird. I think its the AI and Data center hate. I am as local as I can be for my stuff and AI free. 99% of my stuff is Home Assistant, ESPhome, and Zigwave.
I mean, there has always been a correlation between being technical (as in profession/skills) and being paranoid about technology. When you are in the field, you get a window into how ignorant most of the tech products are security-wise for example. And I guess a good portion of 3d printing people - especially the ones on lemmy - are technical (as in profession/skills), not/not only tech lovers.
So long as it has a physical backup and can stay on my network I’m happy. I also need low power draw to stay bellow my 20w idle power budget but that’s a me problem.
If anyone has a vertically mounted stainless steel option with a keypad to recommend I’m all ears!
Which lock are you using?
Been looking at Schlage for a nice local only Zwave / ZigBee lock but I’ve seen a few recent reviews saying how their quality went down the drain. How the PCB is corroding from just moisture in the air… So I’m open to recommendations.
Oof. My Yale has a hub and the AAs last 9-12months.
Jfc is your door on also a tazer?
Neat idea, might be illegal though.
Idk that seems like a genius idea to me.
Why does a dead bolt need batteries? Also if it’s just used form some sort of sensor and the door it used a lot, would that just be noise at that point?
Its the sensor is used for the alarm and to run automations based on if the door is left open. Like turning off the AC and sending me a notification if the door is ajar.
What happens if the door turns into a jar though? Can you really do anything about it?
I am confused, is this not possible to wire properly to a power supply? even though this has increased capacity it would still always be in the back of my head that my door might run out of power 🤔
This did make me realize I’ve never seen a deadbolt reversed. As in the door having just a metal framed hole, and the bolt come out of the frame. Seems like the easiest way you would be able to run power to it. (Maybe not the most structurally sound, probably depends on the door material)
I don’t know. I think that if you built the receptacle right, It could probably work pretty well… Most deadbolts are pretty shit in general (rare to see people reinforce the jamb), so, even an naive attempt probably wouldn’t be that much worse. For a metal door with a chunky insert, I think it would work fine. For any other kind of door, I think you’d probably need at least a frame or large plate to distribute the loads, but it’s still probably wouldn’t be much worse than a conventional configuration. Huh…
I guess the main complexity (or just oddity) would be the keyhole wouldn’t be on the door.
This is how electronic locks work in prisons and jails. Motor in the doorframe with a bolt, power on to unlock, fails secure in the event of a power outage.
In an event of a fire that sounds quite uncomfortable. On the other hand my knowledge about prisons isn’t very profound.
Have you tried puttting in a wired power supply instead?
Ok this is sick. Gives me hope for my garbage $400 “smart” dog door…
Rechargeable li-ion batteries are the game changer for me.
All the fancy expensive rechargeable including Eneloop would have a 30+% failure rate every recharge cycle and I wasted so much money. I have 16 li-ion AAs that I rotate including in my door locks and they have gone through multiple recharge cycles with no failures.
If your Eneloops are failing that much, they are either being over discharged or something is wrong with your charger.
All of my Eneloops have been much more reliable than lithium ion batteries.
I may be the unluckiest person in the world, but I’ve bought expensive official Eneloops multiple times and used multiple chargers and just gave up. Sure, it may be because I’m doing something wrong, but I certainly couldn’t figure out what that may be.
Where did you buy them though? First thing I thought of was fakes, which are sold pretty much everywhere online.
I know you said official, but did you actually check that?
Just anecdotal here, but I haven’t had a single eneloop fail me. Heck, I haven’t even had rebadged eneloops fail either.
30+% failure rate every recharge cycle
What is considered a “failure” in this context?
The battery no longer recharges and is effectively trash.
That’s just terrible to hear. My oldest Eneloops are going on a decade with no failures, but I also had fairly good luck when I used to buy cheaper rechargeables. The common thing might be only using slow chargers.
Nobody else has brought this up, but I’ve read that counterfeit Eneloops are a thing.
Wait until you hear about this neat invention called a “key”. They are quite wonderful, they can securely lock and unlock your door in any conditions and don’t need those pesky batteries.
