I have a KIA, it is decent but I would love more freedom ans I sont trust that access will remain free. VW is paid now.

I am in europe and looking to buy in2027.

  • Lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    2 个月前

    Do not base one of the most expensive purchases of your life around a single application.

    My opinion - since you’re running HA, I assume you like having control over your data. Any vehicle with a connection to the manufacturer is absolutely sucking up your data (everything you do in and to the car), and selling it to insurance providers.

    Don’t lean on the GDPR to protect you here. Your data is not safe in a connected car. Buy used.

    • Squizzy@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      2·
      2 个月前

      Yeah I’m not, I have a number of options and this is a point of consideration.

      All cars are required to have a sim since 2016, I wish they didnt have manufacturer access but they do. I thought maybe I would get someone pointing out how to get access locally

        • Squizzy@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          1·
          2 个月前

          Yeah, tbh I want to decouple from tech providers completely and part of that would be enabling smart features to work locally in the car or back to a home server. I wish it were possible, currently you cant even get a FOSS alternative to apple or android auto

            • Squizzy@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
              1·
              2 个月前

              The duopoly prevents it. In theory it should be simple to plug something other in and use it but the manufscturers dont allow for it.

              Maps, music, calls and messages. None of this needs to be google and apple.

    • Squizzy@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      1·
      2 个月前

      That looks great, shortcoming in terms of being able to interact - I would need to see a Kia specific integration.

      Currently unlocking, setting charge times and all tat needs cloud and lag which is an issue on top of the privacy.

      Ideally I want to be able to locally control but this is a great start. Thanks

    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.caEnglish
      1·
      2 个月前

      OBD ports were not designed as IO ports. OBD plugins can cause parasitic draws, fires and fry the ECU.

      • roofuskit@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 个月前

        Huge portions of the auto industry use them as such, including rental companies and insurance carriers.

        I think I’ll take the actions of the people who actually pay money based on those consequences rather than a rando on the internet.

  • Reformed Reddit User@thelemmy.clubEnglish
    1·
    2 个月前

    I have a KIA and the integration in HA is decent but it is through the KIA Connect server. Every so often, it asks to re-authenticate. This is the only integration in my HA that requires cloud account.

    • Squizzy@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      1·
      2 个月前

      I have the same, I dislike the kia app it is so poorly laid out and difficult to find features. HA is better but kia have a lot of similar sensors that are difficult to interact with.

      Really wish it could be local. I would go so far as to put my own sim in the car and point it to my own server only.

      • Reformed Reddit User@thelemmy.clubEnglish
        1·
        2 个月前

        Yeah! All my switches and plugs are Z-Wave and, of course, local. My cameras are managed by HA, and, I even block them from going out to, and being accessed directly from, the Internet! HA is a time server for all my IoT and camera devices. I wish my KIA is local.

    • Squizzy@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      1·
      2 个月前

      Yeah I was looking at the Buzz and California at the time! I would love the eCalifornia but I won’t give them the money, they don’t innovate enough and come across as entitled with their pricing and then charging for access to my cars features

  • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
    1·
    2 个月前

    Unfortunately the likely answer is “there are none”. All of these companies want to monetize these services and control your experience.