She had to be cut out of the wire and miscarried soon after.

    • @derf82@lemmy.world
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      43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

      Matthew 7

      33 “‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.

      Leviticus 19

      19 And you are to love those who are foreigners

      Deuteronomy 10

      14 “You must not defraud a hired worker who is in need and poor, whether one of your brothers or a foreign resident in your land, within your cities. … 17 Do not deprive the foreigner or the fatherless of justice,

      Deuteronomy 24

      I do think Christ had some choice things to say about these “Christians”:

      21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

      Matthew 7

      41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ 44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ 45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ 46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

      Matthew 25

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          Jesus didn’t invent Christianity tho, it’s Paul who laid the foundation and ultimately, Constantine made Christianity into a religion we know today.

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            But if you look a bit, you’ll find a bunch of “heretical” Christian books from before the Councils and the development of the canon.

            Like the Gospel of Thomas etc etc

            And Jesus is pretty based on those as well.

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        That does not sound like the American “Supply Side Jesus” though…

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    While it is indeed absolutely horrible and inhumane for everyone involved there… this is one shitty and biased article.

    It sounded like they were forced to walk into booby traps full or barbed wire or something. While in reality they took a risk and it didn’t work out.

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      I mean, there were still razor wire booby traps in the water. Whether or not they were forced to cross is irrelevant, literal death traps hidden in the water is absolutely inhumane.

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          You know what the Rio Grande is made of?

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            It’s a dry river. But this is just a normal fence that cattlemen all over the state use to keep people out/off their ranches.

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              Really? I live in Texas and have never once seen a booby trapped cow farm.

              • @PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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                Right, because a booby trap is illegal so you won’t see that anywhere, but barb-wire like this, is 100% legal and used all over the state.

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                  “Booby trap” is a description of its concealedness. These are concealed, on purpose. That’s the issue.

                  Moreover, they’re not barbed wire, they’re razor wire. There’s a massive difference between barbed wire and razor wire.

                • Chozo
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                  Right, because a booby trap is illegal so you won’t see that anywhere

                  Except the Rio Grande, I suppose.

        • @bingbong@lemmy.world
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          The trooper’s email said razor wire-wrapped barrels have been placed into the Rio Grande in areas with low visibility, leading to injuries like the woman’s.

      • @Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Again, where did you see that they are hidden? The only image in that article is that of some guy standing in front of clearly visible barbed wire…

        • @FiskFisk33@lemmy.world
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          The trooper’s email said razor wire-wrapped barrels have been placed into the Rio Grande in areas with low visibility, leading to injuries like the woman’s.

          sounds non obvious to me

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          The trooper’s email said razor wire-wrapped barrels have been placed into the Rio Grande in areas with low visibility, leading to injuries like the woman’s.

          sounds non obvious to me

        • @Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml
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          That’s a stock image the news papers ran with because they dont feel like driving out to the site of the incident.

      • @PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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        You don’t know what a booby trap is. In Texas, where this happens, barbwire is a passive barrier, and not subject to booby trap laws.

      • @Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de
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        And again. Where in the article does it say that it’s booby trapped? There’s not even an image or anything. The only image of barbed wire is one where it’s clearly visible.

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          The headline literally calls it a trap.

          And the picture is not the spot. Here is the description from the article:

          The trooper’s email said razor wire-wrapped barrels have been placed into the Rio Grande in areas with low visibility

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      Not often you see someone defending deadly boobie traps because of, why, again? A made up line on a piece of paper signed off on by dead people?

      Or are you just a comma fucker who lives to obey the law?

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        If he lived to obey the law he should look up Katko v. Briney. The case is notable for the proposition that, although a landowner has no duty to make his property safe for trespassers, he may not set deadly traps against them.

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            It’s razor wire, not barbwire. It caused life-threatening injuries (in one case caused a miscarriage - isn’t abortion murder, according to many folks?) and was deliberately placed in spots where it wouldn’t be seen.

            It’s a booby trap. It doesn’t have to literally be a shotgun set up in exactly the same way as Katko v Briney for it to count as one.

    • @Fisk400@lemmy.world
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      What are you, fucking Jigsaw? If you place traps designed to murder people you are murdering them and the state shouldn’t be allowed to murder migrants. Do you have some other idea about what should be allowed to do with migrants? Feel free to share with the class.

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        I’m complaining about the article itself… It is clearly written in a way that you imagine the worst possible thing, but doesn’t show any hint of proof for it. Literally the only imagine of barbed wire on that site, is one where it a clearly visible high fence.

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          Don’t be a coward. Your argument wasn’t that the article was false. Your argument was that it made it sound like someone forced them into the traps. Then you, based on your own opinion, said that its sounds like the migrants took a chance that didn’t work out. That is you expressing the opinion that literal death traps is something they account for in their risk analysis and that is fair game.

          Its ok to be a coward btw. You can just edit that part out and admit it was a stupid and monstrous thing to say. It’s fine, but don’t pretend you said something else while we can read what you said.

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          It’s just a sob story to emotionally manipulate you.

          I’m seeing this line of thinking more and more. The echo chambers increase in intensity every day.

          “If you have a negative emotional reaction to a news story about your team, ignore it, it’s a liberal psyop!” - How miraculously convenient for your average psychopathic conservative. From the same people who espouse “law and order” and “Christian morality” but also “it’s not a crime if you’re not caught”.

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      What an insanely ghoulish take.
      Here I’m referring to a ghoul as being monstrous and not human because of the total lack of empathy and lack of curiosity. Two of the characteristics that most people would say are most human

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      Riight, riight… because we all know that being pregnant turns a woman into Evil Knievel.

      I think you may have some leftover shoe polish on the side of your face, Clyde.

          • No, you’re options are travel legally or suffer the consequences of trying to do so illegally. Did a border patrol agent karate kick her into the wire? What forced that human being to travel through it? Their own decisions.

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              The consequences are arrest, jail and deportation. Not losing your baby after getting sliced open by razor wire. You sound like a horribly inhumane person.

        • @masquenox@lemmy.ml
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          You do understand that this whole fetishizing-imaginary-lines-on-a-map-thing isn’t even traditional in the US, right? It only became a thing after WW1?

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      While that website is known for terrible writing and fact checking, this isn’t one of those times.

      (To clarify the accusation: They once wrote an article complainig about Chun-Li not being included in the latest Mortal Kombat release. They ended up updating the article to clarify that they were not being ironic or making a joke. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. )