A tariff on champagne would mostly hit the rich so go for it hahaha
It would hit plenty of us working class schmucks too. I don’t usually get to treat myself to a bottle, but it’s nice for a special occasion to get actual champagne over prosecco. I guess this is the end of that.
Pretty sure you have bigger problems? Asking for a friend.
Prosecco is Italian, so I assume would be covered too?
True. But decent bottles of prosecco start at like $8, and decent champagne starts at like $40.
Is that so? A good champagne is 20-30 Euros in Germany
Transport from France to Germany is a lot cheaper than from France to USA. But I don’t know why Italian prosecco is so much cheaper. Same issue with bordeaux vs. (say) tuscan.
Of course it does it’s French and overpriced. Buy Rotkäppchen.
Meh. Freixenet is the way to go. But I am on your side with champagne being overpriced. Same shit, fancy name.
Geez guys, there’s good Sekt, so please do not promote that awful and not even cheap stuff
California produces many excellent sparkling wines, some of which are quite affordable. We’ve got a bit of a grape glut as well, so that should help with prices. European wines going to Canada sounds like a good plan as well! I’m all for anything that pries the big-money donors away from Trump but I hope this is one that won’t hurt ordinary folks too much.
Send it to Canada. We have extra shelf space since US booze was removed.
Let’s drink to that. Cheers!
The EU should increase the tariff on bourbon to 800%, would be funny.
Let’s do super random goods. Like 1000% on marshmallows or something.
The EU is doing something infinitely better than placing tariffs on random goods, a strategy already used when that orange turd was US president the last time. They are very specifically targeting products of US states that voted for him and his party where the impact on the EU economy is minimal.
No surprise he is foaming at the mouth over that, I guess those in his inner circle who do have more brains than him (Is it true that all orange presidents have to share the single brain cell with all the orange cats, by the way?) did already complain about the bad EU ruining their business.
I didn’t know we do that. Only heard that Canada does it. I’m curious how this will affect groceries. Couldn’t think of much, because Europe is pretty self-sustaining with 95% of goods.
We have a protein crop shortfall, most of it goes to animal fodder and is South American soy, the rest is Canadian lentils.
But yes impact in Europe will be minimal, both when it comes to our tariffs because minimising impact is built into them and, apparently, also when it comes to theirs, because Trump doesn’t give a fuck about applying tariffs strategically. The rest of the world will be more than happy to buy our alcohol, maybe at slightly lower prices but it’s not like it’s hard to sell.
That’s insulting to Garfield. :D
Well Bourbon is a pretty red state product
What a fantastic time to not be American. Actually it’s always a fantastic time to not be American.
Putting tariffs on luxury goods that most of us can’t afford is probably the least bad thing Trump’s done so far.
How low has america fallen when a bottle of wine (an $8 expense) is a “luxury item most of america can’t afford”
You cannot afford a bottle of wine?
Is European wine a luxury? You can find some great Italian and Spanish wines in $20 range.
Looking at that price tag: Yup, luxury. I know a few good wines at 5$.
Orange Shittler says “it’s time to buy US champagne” like the fucking sundowning syphilitc he is. There is no such thing as US champagne. Champagne only comes from the Champagne region of France.
In the US, it’s either wine pop or wine cola, depending on the region.
Next up: Trump says “Its easy: just produce your French wine in the US to avoid the tariffs”
“Produce a regional wine which can no longer be named by its region, but has to be called ‘sparkling’ instead - in the us”
Loooool have fun with your shitty wine. Besides you can’t even have your own champagne as it’s location trademarked.
It’s a pretty outdated view that US wine (primarily from California, Oregon, Washington) is of lesser quality of that of Europe. True, the big flagship wines -the first growth Bordeaux and premier cru Burgundy and Champagne, are rarely matched. But a large majority of American wine is on par with most European wine.
Now, of course I do not support tariffs on US imports of wine. But pushing back on the quality comment.
In my experience you get a pretty aweful wine in the US if you don’t spend at least $10-15. In France and Italy, you get decent wines for 4-5€ and excellent wines for 10-15€. Nobody buys more expensive wines except maybe real connoisseurs.
Turns out the sun and vine do most of the work huh
But no matter how good it is, it will never be called champagne
It’s only not allowed because the USA enforces that policy. Trump can decide tomorrow that USA sparkling wine can be called Champagne when sold in the USA and there’s nothing France can do about it.
The orange clown has shown us the rules are only any good if there’s someone who can enforce them. Most of them are just gentlemen’s agreements.
@veroxii @neo2478 right, and in terms of PDO there’s not much Europe could retaliate with. What is there? Bourbon and Tennessee Whiskey? I think those are the only geographical indicators they have. But Cory Doctorow came up with some good ideas. The EU has already brought in alternative app stores but I’m sure there are some other tech & IP considerations https://www.pluralistic.net/2025/01/15/beauty-eh/
Yup. A lot of US income comes from predatory IP laws.
yeah. it is called disney law in usa for a reason
Coca Cola?
That’s made globally.
@HenriVolney well yeah, there are *brands* but I don’t think there are any geographical designations to compete with eg champagne, other than bourbon.
There was a Central American country that demonstrated damages by the US, and was authorised by the International Courts to ignore US IP up to the value of damages claimed?
I think it was Belize and illegal blocks on gambling websites (because folks were still able to use US based gambling websites).
My point is that if the US ignores internationally recognised rules, such as regional naming, and causes demonstrated damage then it doesn’t have to be repaid in like.
I’ll grant you that good champagne is better than great domestic sparkling.
But “no matter how good it is?” I don’t care what something is called; there is good domestic sparkling, and there is bad champagne. I’d rather drink the “good “” without the label.
Interesting aside. Because the senate never recognized the article in The Treaty of Versailles that prohibited use of Champagne, there are producers on the US grandfathered into being able to, technically, use the term.
It’s that delicious California champagne https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvxwf1jxdaM
celebrated for its excellence
Or rather: Mwaaaaah thefrenchchampangeiscelebratedforitsexcellence.
„It’s piss, isn’t it?“
You probably should not be surprised to learn that the US does not entirely recognize the appellation. If the wine was marketed as “Champagne” prior to 2006, they may use the name in the United States.
European wine is no better than American and I say that with a complete lack of national pride lol
For whatever tariff he adds, we should compensate by a long term « positive » deal with our Canada ally.
Can’t make Champagne in the USA, one thing us Europeans won’t stand for is calling a food something if it wasn’t made in the right region. Brought to by Big Hallomi
I mean, I’m going to guess that if this administration wants to do something, then international laws about place of origin don’t matter anymore either.
Excellent then… if USA won’t respect intl rules, I would finally be able to open my Spider-man vs Darth Vader themed cafe and pay nothing to Disney for it
I would like to visit your cafe
That was my thought exactly, like GI laws are going to apply in Trump’s new kingdom
Just commenting to say that Zzyzx is the password I use to lock the diagnostic math test we use at the middle school where I teach. I still remember passing by that road sign on the way to Vegas from LA and doing a triple take.
The word and the place is a fun bit of trivia!
By new executive order, Champaign will now be known as “Trump’s Freedom Juice”.
Let’s remind everyone that Trump doesn’t drink alcohol, doesn’t smoke and eats his steak well done covered in ketchup.
Well done*
Right, sorry, I don’t know why my brain misfired there.
MacDonald’s sell steak?
Did he say he only eats at McD? I must say that, for as long as I visited the US, their steaks, cooked medium-rare, where the main reason to endure the travel and the people there.
Too bad you’re adding to the plastic in your brain with every meat consumption. Idk about ‘only’ but he looks like he’s made of McD trash and he eats it everyday apparently.
DO IT HAHAHAHAHAHA
i didnt think Trump would be such a bad President for them. his foreign and economic policies are crazy. xD
It’s insane to think most of his voters were because they were tired of inflation… So, after inflation was under control they voted for the guy that was straight up telling them he wanted to raise the price of things with tariffs.
his foreign policy is dumb. tarifs are dumb. hes smart but in a dumb way. xD
only good thing is that there is less illegal immigration.
The other silver lining is that Europe is finally realizing they can’t rely on us. Europe will be stronger after this, and we will have a much weaker presence on the world stage.
im sad, you were and still are a big positive influence in the vast majority of countries.
Well, Trump just gave all that up in his “America First” move of defunding USAID. That organization was a super cheap way to exert soft power and influence all over the world. Now we’ll never be the first at the table when negotiating things in other countries. He gave all that power up for China to take…
yeah that was retarded
What matters is that his policies are good for his handler. Now everybody has to live with economic sanctions.
i dont think he has a handler. so you mean like hes a marionett? he has advisers, yes.
hes dumb enough all by himself. the donald needs no help. <3
He is definitely owned by Putin and Russian oligarchs.
While this is ridiculous, could be worse than putting a tariff on alcohol
Now the rich and middle classes will overthrow him.
