Not much info yet, but I grew up on Digg, so I’m cautiously optimistic. Probably no Fediverse support, but honestly, any Reddit alternative is a win. Really hoping for real API access and third-party apps.
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I’m rooting for them simply because I want to see Reddit and them fight. I’m not going to be switching, because I’m basically done with centralized ultracapitalist bullshit for personal use.
100% this. Why would I go back to another centralized corpo line must go up service that will inevitably enshittify when we got lemmy right here?
I could like Digg if it was federated. But I bet it won’t.
Preach!
Its being recorded by Reddit cofounder Alexis ohanian. I don’t think they’ll fight lol
He has nothing to lose by competing. He owns a stake in Reddit, and he’s rebooting a competitor. He wins either way, and striking out on his own has a better chance of making him more money than relying on his stake.
If he fails and Reddit “wins,” he still has his stake to fall back upon.
Yeah the chasing profit is what ultimately dooms public forums.
And pretty much everything else as well.
US americans trying to cash in on discontent with buzzwords like AI and trying to steal the thunder of actual worthy alternatives like lemmy. The fact Ohanian is part of the founders immediately places it into the shit tier bucket for me.
You’re right. An even shittier reddit that failed due to extreme greed before? What’s the point?
Lemmy has thunder?
Yes. It’s an iOS client. 😏
And Android*
User on both platforms checking in, it’s great!
The app I am using to write this comment is called Thunder. So thats one thing we’ve got.
Why would you expect an aggregator-and-comment site bought and rebranded by reddit-cofounder O’Hanian to end up significantly different than his other aggregator-and-comment site?
They’re probably skint and need a loan.
Problem is, they created it? Oops
AI for moderation worry me
Yeah, isn’t that what everyone wants?
A website where you talk to people and a robot with no oversight shows up and changes what you say, or silences you, or prevents you from talking to certain people.
At the same time though, I don’t care if billionaires play rock and sock em robots with companies. It just kind of sucks for the people that work at those companies, being tools of a game for rich people to play.
Why would I go back to Digg when we have Lemmy?
Shorter name.
I digg that comment!
Lemmy express that I really digg yours too. Had to laugh right after I reddit.
We should rename lemmy to lem
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I knew I recognized this number…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controversy
I was there that day. In the before time
They say they’ll use AI, so fuck them.
Yeah, the mention of AI is pretty ominous. It makes me wonder if AI would be used to fill in the gaps when the user base is too low.
It absolutely will be. It’s what’s happening to twitter right now. Loads and loads of bots/ai posting “content.”
The original Digg was an important site for me personally between 2005-2009, but only in that early era and mostly as a bridge between my Fark and Reddit eras. I honestly can’t see it competing with Reddit’s established user base or being as no-nonsense and free as Lemmy. I don’t think it will gain traction and the AI aspect will turn a lot of people off from it.
Oh neat! I used to use Fark, too. I just checked and it’s still around, just looks a bit dead compared to how I remember it from back in the day.
I started using it in the late 90’s or early 2000’s, but I stopped sometime in that date range you mentioned. For me, it was the fact that I got multiple back to temporary suspensions (with no warnings). It was like I couldn’t do anything right and to some extent, it felt targeted and personal.
I don’t even remember them all, but two of the suspensions stick out to me. I got banned for posting the picture of the officially unofficial fark squirrel (i.e. Big Balls). Up until that time, it was basically a Fark meme posted openly and frequently by large numbers of users. I guess advertisers didn’t like it and I didn’t get the memo. Another suspension came when I responded to a homophobic bigot who was arguing against legalizing gay marriage in the USA by telling him “if you believe that, you are an idiot”. Apparently that’s name calling, but using cocksucker as a pejorative against another man was still considered A-Okay.
Didn’t use dig but not going back to centralized link aggerators after what I saw happen with reddit over the years. CEOs can’t be trusted.
Digg lost its popularity for the same reason Reddit is. It started taking investment money and began to please only the share holders. Yeah it’s private owned again, but they will just repeat the cycle because the temptation is there.
I’ve only been using Lemmy for a few months, but it seems to me that taking any instance public will not be a feasible business model. i don’t recommend anyone go back to digg unless you just like watching enshitification happen. Should they reboot Ebaulmsworld while they’re at it? I know that last statement struck a nerve!
was ebaulmsworld something that was before digg?
Yes, and no English language site other than 4chan has been a larger part of early English language internet culture than ebaumsworld. So many things started there.
that one must have collapsed quite thoroughly. i havent seen even a mention to it before now
Seriously? It’s foundational to the history of the internet. If an image macro format, what the kids call memes, didn’t start on /b/ it started on ebaumsworld.
Let’s not forget Something Awful and YTMND now. Should reboot those too. Maybe assemble them all together like Vultron or something.
With Rotten.com as the ass
maybe i just havent been around in places where it would be relevant to mention it though now it feels a little odd i dont remember any any mention of it if it was that foundational. I guess its possible i have seen the name mentioned but wouldnt have known to pay any attention to it.
Were you an adult with internet access and were English speaking and on the internet a lot between 2005-2010? If you answer no to any of those that’s why you don’t know it.
The foundational sites aren’t always known. Im willing to bet most people think the meme formats they shared started on facebook or instagram.
its such shame details disappear into history. i bet there were tons of stuff on there that would be interesting today that doesnt exist anywhere anymore
Yeah sure, this time the giant company won’t enshittify.
I am not optimistic. Kevin Rose spent the last few years doing crypto/NFT nonsense, and is now on the AI train. Plus, link aggregators have tried to double down on AI with mixed results. See the example of Artifact, which crashed and burned just last year. There is no business model for this, and if there were, I wouldn’t trust Kevin Rose to deliver it. I say this as someone who was a massive Digg/Revision3/Diggnation fan as a teenager but grew disillusioned.
Meh, I’ve moved on. I was addicted to digg back in the day, but they’ll have to earn viewership back from me. Not impossible, but content, moderation, and monitization are going to be hard to perfect these days.
Digg killed digg IMO. They either learned a lesson, or it’s more of the same.
You shouldn’t expect a lot from a zombie.
