I’ve got no love for billionaires, and obviously this story overshadowing the migrant boat sinking in Greece is infuriating, but I’m really not a fan of the glee so many people on social media are expressing at the deaths of these five people.
Also, on another note, I seriously cannot get over the fact that the late CEO of the company, Stockton Rush, has the absolute perfect team name for a minor league football team from central California.
I think worrying about people making fun of some rich ass billionaires dying for doing something stupid, is the last hill you should choose to die on. These people made their riches and wealth by exploiting normal people like you and me.
You don’t have to actively root for their deaths, but I’m certainly not shedding any tears for them experiencing the consequences of their own actions.
You don’t have to actively root for their deaths, but I’m certainly not shedding any tears for them experiencing the consequences of their own actions.
That’s… What he said? Lol
“I’ve got no love for billionaires… but the glee people have for their deaths…”
Let’s leave the “if you have any scrutiny whatsoever it must mean you’re on the opposite side of everything I stand for” bullshit on reddit where it belongs and actually read what people are saying.
Wouldn’t say I’m dying on any hill here, only saying there are very few people whose deaths should be celebrated, and these are not those people.
I agree, a lot of people in threads in the fediverse are taking way too much pleasure in 5 people dying. I get not being a fan of billionaires - no one should be - but not everyone aboard was a billionaire, and even if they were it’s just so incredibly callous to take joy in people dying in an accident. Have a base level of empathy for crying out loud.
Part of the reason I loved moving to Lemmy from reddit was getting away from reddit’s toxicity, I hope we don’t bring it with us.
Complaining about non-existing things is a new phenomenon on the internet I guess. I haven’t seen a single person cheering about the billionaires’ death but I’ve seen dozens of people complaining about people cheering about their deaths.
It’s like those upvoted comments in reddit threads where people say “number of comments in this thread about XX is disgusting” and you look for those comments and cannot find any.
You were the kid who just casually glanced around when asked to look for something, weren’t you?
That’s just one from this thread. In other news threads the top two comments were people saying “good riddance” or something similar. I’d screenshot those for you as well but I now can’t find the threads in my feed because the feed updated and they got pushed down to god knows where.
I mean if you specifically look for it you can of course find them, you can find people cheering for dead puppies and kittens too, there are maniacs everywhere. Thing is it’s far from being an overall attitude, it’s really really minority.
This is indeed an annoying reddit / internet thing. It’s nothing but shit stirring.
I’m just surprised Elon Musk didn’t find a way to inject himself into this story somehow, like he did with the Thai cave rescue.
They associated the debris they found earlier to be from the sub which pretty much confirms the implosion.
I’d definitely choose to die that way over asphyxiation or dehydration.
100% agree here. But then again, you wouldn’t catch me in a tiny enclosed space God knows how deep, no thanks. I’ll look at titanic videos on youtube.
From what I heard they had two bottles for urine and a bag to deficate in. It would have been freezing and extremely humid inside after even a day as well.
A implosion would be way better than days cramped together suffocating and starving in a inescapable freezing stench filled coffin.
Plus imagine being the poor coast guard team that has to crack that sucker open after they finally found and raised it 🤢
It’s already been cracked open… and it wasnt by the coast guard…
Cracking open a cold one with the bois.
But isn’t the asphyxiation here on the levels of, you end up falling asleep and don’t wake up again. It’s not to the degree of you’re choking to death and can’t do anything about it.
I don’t think so. You’d feel the carbon dioxide building up in your muscles over time, it would be awful. That and the mind-destroying existential terror. I’d take the sudden crush depth exposure, thanks.
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You would certainly be in a lot of discomfort and panic for a few minutes. Awful for sure.
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I read the company skipped a load of safety and redundancy checks. Thats crazy…if it’s true. Cutting corners to save a few bucks .
I’m not surprised due the greed that exists in the world but this should require the same level of regulation as a plane or a rocket . Not some metal cylinder with a $30 controller duct taped inside it.
They operated in international waters, so no regulation applies really. This is exactly what the less government people want - you choose of your own free will to contract with this company knowing the risks. I imagine it’s similar to lots of dangerous recreation out there like the sub orbital flights. That said, I would have noped out of it based on the one article describeing the legal processes and forms you had to sign.
you choose of your own free will to contract with this company knowing the risks.
But that’s just the problem with free market/small government, isn’t it? You can’t know the risks because there is no oversight to prove people aren’t cutting corners and selling bullshit.
As long as it is more profitable for people to deceive and cut corners, they’re gonna do it.
So, they made their
seabed and now lie on it?It’s hard to find empathy for those guys.
Hopefully the company goes out of business and there is someone held accountable but I won’t hold my breath. Its sad for the families all the same.
Sure, it’s sad for the families, but I find that my empathy is better off being spent elsewhere.
Even if some employee got caught in this CEO’s whims, that employee already sold his life away upon embarking on a sub made by a company whose head thinks “safety just is pure waste.”
What’s a waste is this CEO not surviving to regret his very words.
I am curious as to what the repeated knocking on ~30 minute intervals that was picked up on sonar ends up being if not from the sub.
I believe that in a previous case like this it was found to be biological – some sort of animal noise maybe.
I was messing around with this like sub warfare simulator game a while back and I blew up a whale with a torpedo because it showed up on my sonobuoy network as an unidentified contact 😅
“In other news, a Navy P-3 recently sunk a sperm class whale.”
So incredibly sad.
Is it though? I feel the same way I do when I hear another base jumper, parkour influencer, or wing suit junkie died.
“Yep, makes sense.”
There is a certain amount of empathy I want to have about the situation. Because at the end of the day, someone lost a loved one.
But there is also a bit of poetic justice when someone visits the wreck of a ship that played a large role in making sure ships were safer in case of catastrophic failure.
Only to ignore those procedures and end up right next to it.
Well, it’s a tragic example on how capitalism really ruins things for everyone. The OceanGate drama should have been the wake up call. But it wasn’t and these people are dead. And they get infinietly more media coverage than hundreds of souls lost in Pylos.
What a fucked up world we live in.
Must we do the comparisons? The sub story was simply more interesting. It’s not some media conspiracy, unless the media is already controlling the upvotes on kbin lol
Yeah, this comparison is getting really strained. As the Joker once said:
Nobody panics when things go “according to plan.” Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it’s all “part of the plan.” But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds!
A sunken ship filled with hundreds of migrants in the Mediterranean is, horrifyingly, a routine thing. It’s “part of the plan.” But a billionaire in a minisub possibly stranded on the Titanic? That’s newsworthy. Yes, it sucks, but it’s human nature and some battles are just impossible to win under the current circumstances.
