There seems to be a large percentage of recent college graduates who are unemployed.
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Honestly think weāre as a country on the decline like the Romans were, doesnāt matter which party was in charge.
We need real, people focused movement.
Most people donāt understand what college is actually for. Most people think college is to learn something and then you make a career out of it. Well, itās not, unless you want to go into academia.
College is a way to socialize and meet other people. This means you need to get into the right crowds and meet the right people. You use this time to do things like internships. What you learn and what your GPA is does not matter to any employer. Who you know, does.
This, but also internships are HUGE.
I was greedy. I never did any of the internships because the money I made as a delivery driver was orders of magnitude higher than what they were offering. I almost couldnāt afford to stop making that kind of money. But I got hella lucky to be in my current position. I often wonder what life would be like had I interned at Cisco or IBM.
To be fair, your degree and GPA can be helpful in landing your very first job. After that though youāre right, nobody cares about anything but your work experience.
Graduated in 2014 from university of Arizona (bio/chem double major): my first job paid me 9$/hour to which I negotiated 10$/hour. Stayed with them 3 months before being fired for making mistakes (I did make small mistakes, nothing crazy though). Started as a cowboy giving horse rides and pony cart rides instantly at 10/hour + tips. A year later started teaching at the university for 10/hour. Worked there 7 years maxing out at 15.80$. The job market is utter garbage for graduates.
Iām going to do my best to give some real advice here. Maybe youāll take offense or maybe not. The reality is that most people are going to put a value on you for how you value yourself. Academia is overwhelmed with a negative culture of seniority and elitistism. What this results in is a lot of unhappy people that believe working for little to even no pay is a acceptable. They get so caught up in the system thinking that it is normal to have people acting superior to them and putting them down and they even start to idealize one day being the elitist that values their own self worth on how much they can put others down. It messes you up big time.
Next, if youāre desperate for work then you canāt let it show too much or people wonāt respect you and the less youāre likely to get a good paying job. There is nothing wrong with being a go getter, but you have to be organized and confident. If you let a person or company influence your ability to make smart and rational decisions just because they have money, it ends up hurting you in the long run.
The world is full of yesmen who just wait for commands. They are dispensable and a dime a dozen. Although it isnāt fair, you also canāt realistically expect that people wonāt basically test to see how moldable you are and use that to their advantage. If you bend whenever they ask theyāll make you bend until you break.
Saying all that I can reasonably say the job market isnāt utter garbage for graduates or even non graduates. It is utter garbage for people that have let the world beat them down and that operate in the confounds of others have money and they respect that more than they respect themselves.
Once you build some confidence in a skill and know what youāre good, what you want to do and believe in your own value, what youāre worth and capable of accomplishing then it changes the dynamics. People respect that and you also become a much more valuable asset.
So to summarize, stop playing by the rules that you have set for yourself and others have led you up believe. I know it isnāt always immediately feasible. Sometimes you really canāt survive and need something to at least provide food and shelter, but donāt stop there and donāt be afraid to take some risk. Thst can involve telling people no and explaining why, being authentic even if it makes you vulnerable, and treating a boss or CEO like a peer.
You can be the leader, the consultant who they need more than you need them, adaptable and diverse ready to do hard work but has a strong grasp on managing the entire project or an entire company yourself for that mstter. If you like teaching then demand the let you record the lessons and work with an online program snd platform to earn other income. If they ask that they you sign an employment agreement you donāt feel comfortable with, then donāt. Like I saidā¦ The more you donāt immediately agree to things just cause others have money, the more theyāll respect you and the more youāll end up getting paid.
Basically everything youāve said I agree with and have put to practice. I look at employment that way now, especially now that I no longer teach. Iām doing much better now, but only really because Iām married and his income solves my problems. It feels really bad that I have to depend on my spouse, but at least I paid for his graduate degree with QTR so I did help somewhat.
I graduated about the same time. Studied philosophy. I started waiting tables and bartending in California for about $200 per night in tips plus minimum wage.
Then learned to to code and I became a software engineer. Started at 60k as intern level, now making 180k while permanent remote.
Well yeah. Your college GPA doesnāt matter unless youāre trying to get into grad school.
I was hired to a job a year ago that required to see my transcript and GPA for a college degree I got 15 years ago. Apparently grades matter longer than youād expect.
Thatās extremely rare. Thatās also extremely obnoxious because if you donāt still have those on hand, after 15 years, your university might not either.
I remember needing to get my high school transcripts in order to get a public trust clearance when I was almost 30. The school didnāt even have them anymore.
If it was federal or state gov job or they had federal contracts then yeah.
It did matter for GE. Jerks wanted 3.8 or higher to consider you. They did interviews as a formality. Didnāt matter if you went to community or ivy league. Never felt so annoyed at my life choices. Hindsight glad I didnāt get the job.
Of course my current company, my coworkers went to a local cheap party school. Like wtf was the struggle for?
Same with Google
The struggle is for nothing? If you went to a school with grade deflation to āmaintain the integrity of educationā? Get fucked, party schools will pass kids or allow kids to grade grub to a higher GPA.
Academia is such a fucking game.
Yeah I felt like I got wrecked with high debt and high stress for years. Meanwhile I got coworkes who said school was chill and literally on a beach.
I went to just one interview were someone cared about college and thatās only because they went there.
Fair, but thatās very rare. Most companies require a degree and then donāt even ask for proof of one.
I must have hit the bads one often,
Another company literally tore through my transcript and grilled me on why I had a terrible semester. Such dbags. I shouldāve gone to party school.
And most students today canāt even write an essay.
GPAās mean jack shit these days anyway. Super smart kids who nolifed through college or were so heavily funded by rich parents that they had personal tutors and zero life stress to focus on a 4.0 are now common, but arenāt enough for the limited number of poorly paying entry level positions. The bar has moved up to graduating experience; if you didnāt get one, ideally two summer or 6-month internships during your bachelorās you might as well just go jump off a bridge now.
I managed to squeeze myself into a full time job directly from an intership because it was with a locally based company that I was able to intern for while going to school, but maybe 50% of my graduating class still has OpenToWork on their linkedinās a full year down nowā¦
