The U.S. Army has disputed a claim from Donald Trump’s campaign that nobody on his staff got physical with an employee of Arlington National Cemetery on Monday.
Instead, the military branch confirmed Thursday that a member of Trump’s staff “abruptly pushed” a woman employee after she sought to “ensure adherence” to cemetery rules that bars recording for political purposes.
The Army said the woman reported the incident to local cops but ultimately decided against pressing charges. It remains unclear who in Trump’s orbit did the alleged pushing.
It is important to note that she chose not to press charges because she was afraid of retaliation from trump’s worshippers. Party of law and order…
Why is she the one having to press charges in the first place? They assaulted a government employee on government property because she was doing her job. Kinda feels like something the US government should be prosecuting for. Like one of those “no, you fucked up. Direct to federal prison for you.” Kinda things.
Even if she didn’t press charges she would still be in danger.
The victim “pressing charges” is just a fancy way of saying reporting the crime. It’s not something that needs to happen for the prosecutor to file a criminal complaint. Though, in a case like this they would probably rely on the victim’s testimony, so there may not be a case if she doesn’t want to cooperate.
Yes, the state presses charges, or not. However, they will often take the victim’s desire to prosecute into consideration before doing so. But yes, you don’t press charges, the state does.
Except the direct to prison part. We do that too much.
Not to people like Trump and his hangers-on. We don’t do it enough to them.
It’s not just cemetery rules that forbid filming for political purposes, it’s literally the fucking law. Toss it on the pile I guess.
Toss it on the pile I guess.
What happened to Trump’s video proof that no one got physical and she had a mental episode?
*His video proof that they weren’t recording video at the cemetery.
One of the most moronic claims I’ve heard in a long time.
I’m sure my pillow guy has it and will share with the world just like he shared definite proof of election fraud /s
Isn’t that guy a poor like us now? He could be working a shift at the home Depot by now and hating Trump, just like the rest of us out of the cult.
It’s in a laptop that Tucker Carlson has
You mean the video proof that it would have been illegal for them to have created?
Trump is exactly the kind of Karen who would describe anyone disagreeing with him as ‘having a mental health episode.’
Especially when it is a woman disagreeing with him. I anticipate at least once post debate him saying Harris was having a mental health issue during the debate.
I grew up in a right-wing authoritarian family: physical violence is pretty routine, as is DARVO.
Indeed, as I said in another thread my conservative relatives are too busy “protecting” their kids from trans people in under 8 sports to stop and think about whether or not its right to slap their own kids for minor misbehaviour.
DARVO?
Hey there singular, downvoting but not commenting maga! How are you today?
I look for your downvote now on every comment or post about Trump. Just want you to know I appreciate your work, and you provide nonstop entertainment. That’ll keep the truth suppressed!
Somewhere, right now, Trump is specifically thinking about something else other than how he appreciates your support! Go get 'em champ!
Urge to downvote post just because rising
“The fact is that a private photographer was permitted on the premises and for whatever reason an unnamed individual, clearly suffering from a mental health episode, decided to physically block members of President Trump’s team during a very solemn ceremony,” Cheung said.
These guys are shameless.
I think in this case everyone should pay closer attention to this fact: the Arlington official declined to press charges for assault and the Army declined to press charges for the violation of federal law. And, at least in the case of the official, they did so because they fear violent retribution.
Violent retribution for doing their job respecting the sanctity of a cemetery for veterans.
Let me generalize and repeat: THE MILITARY IS AFRAID TO ENFORCE THE LAW AGAINST REPUBLICANS BECAUSE THEY’RE SCARED RIGHT-WING EXTREMISTS WILL KILL PEOPLE IF THEY DO.
Hello? Is this thing on?
You know that line before fascism people fear the United States might step over? LOOK BEHIND YOU.
Navy vet here. If I can offer an alternative interpretation: I can assure you that the Army is not actually afraid of retaliation (source: they have cluster bombs), I think it is a strategic move on their part to keep him from playing the victim. Trump is putting a lot of work every single day into ensuring that he loses this election. This is widely regarded as “tight”, and “super cool”, but he is also really good at playing the victim. Even if the Army press charges, and even if they got a conviction before the election somehow, it wouldn’t really change anything. Public perception is doing all the work that needs to be done about this, but if he successfully phrases this as a political attack so close to the election, it could throw a wrench in the roller coaster which is currently about to start going downhill really fast for him. I agree with you that this is not the correct outcome for such behavior, but I think it’s the best course of action currently available to ensure that he loses fair and square, and has no legitimate recourse after the votes are counted. He’s definitely going to dispute the results, but we need to make sure that he has no shadow of an actual, real, foothold to build a case of unfairness around.
That’s a reasonable take for Army as a whole in this instance, though I think you’re underestimating just how concerned they are about white nationalist and far-right violent extremism in their own ranks. They’ve been quite candid about it, though it doesn’t seem like they’ve done much to fix the problem–or that they even have a solution to work towards other than the broader national strategy of really hoping it just goes away one day.
It is also nevertheless true that people fear for their safety if they become targeted by the MAGA mob. The cemetery official, who specifically said she fears reprisal from Trump supporters, is one example of that sad phenomenon.
Army seemed pretty unwilling to give her cover by taking up the violation themselves, so she was left to cower as she was accused of having a “mental health episode,” the Army was characterized as being a bunch of hacks, and she basically just had to hope her identity didn’t come out in the media.
While you may be right about Army playing the political optics game instead of enforcing the federal laws designed to protect the sanctity of where soldiers that have made the ultimate sacrifice are laid to rest, I would say their decision didn’t make them look particularly good.
The Army can’t press assault charges on her behalf. She’s elected not to, which in this unique situation, is probably reasonable if she wants to continue having a normal life after this. Being an institution, and not an individual, the only real recourse the Army have would be to pursue a federal charges relating to misuse of the land and photography and such, but not doing so is the whole point of my initial post. In addition, even if they did, it would be a challenging case to prove that he was using it for campaign purposes given that he did not give a campaign speech or anything quite so flagrant. I’m not saying that anybody except for that poor staffer is completely in the right here, but it is probably the best case scenario: Trump and his team did something aggressively anti-patriotic, it was widely reported, and he has no way to possibly play the victim here.
What a bunch of fucking entitled weirdos
Traitors
Weird traitors
But didn’t you see their new signs? If anything assures me that they’re normal, it’s gotta be this:
Wow… Signs! I’m totally convinced to vote against my best interest now!
Oh yeah, he isn’t weird… but what about that sofasexual?
Anything for a photo op. Reminiscent of that whole Bible holding thing…
Some MAGGAT that’s going to use a recording of Trump being here to showcase how Trump “cares” about the lives of the military for campaigning.
Are there news sources that are moderate or conservative enough that this piece of news could be pushed into conservative subs? I’m perhaps banned from them all already but doesn’t cost to try.
There’s over 300 news outlets reporting on this with about 19% on the right.
I checked some of the articles further on the right and they’re all defending trump and even outright lying, and attacking the woman that tried to hold up the law.
Well, looks like I wasn’t banned before.
Oh well!
I sometimes wish getting a ban would mean that I wasn’t allowed to read that shit either. That would help so much.
What a piece of shit
Add that crime to the pile.
Can he and his team go anywhere without one of them committing a crime…?
Money on Corey Lewandowski, he was fired for similar behavior in 2016.
Cheung and LaCivita are accused of the abuse. And they are both completely rabid animals so it’s no surprise. But yeah, so weird that the entire T**** team is infested with these types of people.
You don’t think it was Cheung, who literally worked for the UFC and that Kushner calls “the killer”? One of the two people described as arguing and shoving the military person? The one that got extremely defensive about it and said she was having a mental episode?
Yeah, I think it was Cheung.
Sorry I made a bad bet. Where should I mail my $1?
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