• @blackn1ght@feddit.uk
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    42 years ago

    Edit: We actually give a shit about all the Ukrainian people being thrown into a fucking meat grinder. We care about their lives. The people who just say “more weapons to Ukraine!” do not give a shit about the lives of the people there. They’re happy to just let the war keep dragging on until the last capable Ukrainian is dead. An example of how WE feel about the tragedy of the situation: https://hexbear.net/post/503747 (hexbear link to a lemmygrad news post)

    So be fucking outraged then that Russia started, and is continuing this war. They’re the ones killing Ukrainians in their homeland.

    A comment from that link:

    Omg, it’s a full on genocide of Ukrainian people. Just damm the Western libs… Fuck this planet.

    Russia is committing genocide. They’ve been raping and killing civilians since the start, this is where your anger and energy needs to be. Imagine being outraged at the nation defending itself from genocide, and those countries that are sending the tools that they’re being asked for to help defend themselves.

    • radiofreeval [she/her]
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      122 years ago

      You realize more fighting and more weapons doesn’t magicly win territory? It’s war, to continue fighting means killing more people and destroying more lives. The fighting needs to stop as soon as possible, one way or another or the whole country will end up like Bakmuht.

      • @blackn1ght@feddit.uk
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        42 years ago

        So your answer is to let an aggressor nation just happily steamroll through any country it pleases? Because down to this logic, any nation that decides to defend their homeland just cause needless bloodshed. No fighting = no deaths, but the aggressor can literally just waltz in and take whatever it wants.

        The fighting needs to stop as soon as possible

        Agreed. Every effort needs to make sure Russia leaves Ukraine ASAP. Ideally without any more deaths. But unfortunately as long as Russia continues this pointless act of imperialism, then the death toll will rise.

        • radiofreeval [she/her]
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          122 years ago

          So your answer is to keep the meatgrinder running for as long as possible? Sure, countless Ukrainians and Russians are dying, but at least the lines on the map don’t change.

          • @blackn1ght@feddit.uk
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            22 years ago

            If Ukraine wants to remain a sovereign nation and retain its land, then what alternative does it have? I don’t think any nation in their right mind would happily let an invader just attack without putting up a defence.

            Russia themselves threw millions of men into the meat grinder to defeat the Nazis and so did the allies. So did the north Vietnamese against the US. It’s tragic, but it’s it’s unfortunately the reality when there’s bad actors that invade other nations.

          • @teichflamme@lemm.ee
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            02 years ago

            The joke is that what you want has been done already when Russia invaded the Krim.

            How dumb do you have to be to think that Russia would not do the same shit again soon if Ukraine decides to do nothing?

    • Clippy [none/use name]
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      102 years ago

      Gaddafi’s troops are committing rape to children en masse, they have issued viagra to mass rape people since the start. this is where your anger and energy need to be. Imagine being outraged at the nation defending itself from mass rape, and those countries that are sending the tools that they’re being asked for to help defend themselves.